Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 53
  1. #11
    Senior Tech. 2,500+ Posts NeoMatrix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Sunshine State QLD.
    Posts
    3,514
    Rep Power
    104

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Or use your roller press (yesterday's project):


    Post your picture, or better yet an improvement. I tend to over-build. You know, the ten dancing elephants test.

    Attachment 30979

    =^..^=

    Okay I'll bite.
    I have a feeling I shouldn't ask this.
    What is the ten dancing elephants test ?
    Inauguration to the "AI cancel-culture" fraternity 1997...
    •••••• •••[§]• |N | € | o | M | Δ | t | π | ¡ | x | •[§]••• ••••••

  2. #12
    Master Of The Obvious 10,000+ Posts
    Zeus Feed Rollers

    blackcat4866's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lapeer, Michigan
    Posts
    22,471
    Rep Power
    463

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post
    Okay I'll bite.
    I have a feeling I shouldn't ask this.
    What is the ten dancing elephants test ?
    For as long as I can remember (OK, quite a bit longer than that) I have always built things to withstand the stresses provided by 10 dancing elephants. I do not recall exactly who defined that particular standard, but everyone I know seems to understand it. As a result, many of the things I build are considerably heavier than need be, but rarely break.

    Real dancing elephants are quite rare, so I don't usually get to truly field test my constructions. It's so difficult to assemble 10 of them in one place. =^..^=
    Last edited by blackcat4866; 10-18-2015 at 11:05 PM.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

  3. #13
    Senior Tech. 2,500+ Posts NeoMatrix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    Sunshine State QLD.
    Posts
    3,514
    Rep Power
    104

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Or use your roller press (yesterday's project):

    Attachment 30977

    3 1/2" of 1" copper.
    Left cap drilled with 8mm hole.
    Right cap drilled with 14mm hole, to accommodate the roller hub.
    Temporarily assemble bronze bushing to left cap with 8mm x 24mm bolt and nut.
    Assemble left cap, copper tube, right cap, then solder 3 joints. Let cool.
    Cut away center part of the tube with Dremel cutter wheel, 45mm long by 1/2 the circumference
    Remove the bolt, wash away any remaining rosin and clean up rough edges.

    Attachment 30978



    =^..^=
    I like the above rubber roller press idea. I might have to put one of these together.

    It should also work in reverse and remove the old rubber roller as well.
    Put a metal cylinder inside the main tube with an inner diameter just big enough for the plastic housing, and the push the old rubber roller off the plastic housing. Viola!!!.
    The inner cylinder need not be full length of the main outer tubing, it just needs be a simple thin ring shape of metal soldered into place inside the main tube. Put a blanking plate/metal washer over the top of inner removal cylinder and press the new rubber roller onto the old housing, as per normal.

    With a bit of cheeky modification to the design it might be possible to do it in one operation....
    See attached image.
    RollerPress.jpg

    I just had a light bulb moment. The roller press can be done even simpler and smaller to fit in a work bag. I'll leave it for the time being. It would be interesting to see how many others pick up on the general idea.
    Last edited by NeoMatrix; 10-19-2015 at 01:43 AM.
    Inauguration to the "AI cancel-culture" fraternity 1997...
    •••••• •••[§]• |N | € | o | M | Δ | t | π | ¡ | x | •[§]••• ••••••

  4. #14
    Master Of The Obvious 10,000+ Posts
    Zeus Feed Rollers

    blackcat4866's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lapeer, Michigan
    Posts
    22,471
    Rep Power
    463

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Not only can you remove rubber from both the old and new rollers for swapping hubs, but if you start the rubber and turn it around in the press, it will install the rubber onto the hub too. Pictures please. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

  5. #15
    Service Manager 2,500+ Posts
    Zeus Feed Rollers

    Hansoon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    3,200
    Rep Power
    95

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Pure bare ingenuity here guys

    Cool ideas!

    Hans
    " Sent from my Intel 80286 using MS-DOS 2.0 "

  6. #16
    Master Of The Obvious 10,000+ Posts
    Zeus Feed Rollers

    blackcat4866's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lapeer, Michigan
    Posts
    22,471
    Rep Power
    463

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post
    I like the above rubber roller press idea. I might have to put one of these together.

    It should also work in reverse and remove the old rubber roller as well.
    Put a metal cylinder inside the main tube with an inner diameter just big enough for the plastic housing, and the push the old rubber roller off the plastic housing. Viola!!!.
    The inner cylinder need not be full length of the main outer tubing, it just needs be a simple thin ring shape of metal soldered into place inside the main tube. Put a blanking plate/metal washer over the top of inner removal cylinder and press the new rubber roller onto the old housing, as per normal.

    With a bit of cheeky modification to the design it might be possible to do it in one operation....
    See attached image.
    RollerPress.jpg

    I just had a light bulb moment. The roller press can be done even simpler and smaller to fit in a work bag. I'll leave it for the time being. It would be interesting to see how many others pick up on the general idea.
    Good idea. I'll give it some thought. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

  7. #17
    Senior Tech 100+ Posts kjg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    TN
    Posts
    111
    Rep Power
    35

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Novel idea on the roller press.
    I just might have to try it out.

    I have been using Ricoh rollers for color machines in some of my Kyoceras. Very similar roller from what I see in the picture.

    The press deserves several likes.

    Thanks!!!

  8. #18
    Trusted Tech 50+ Posts bigwul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    60
    Rep Power
    21

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    For as long as I can remember (OK, quite a bit longer than that) I have always built things to withstand the stresses provided by 10 dancing elephants. I do not recall exactly who defined that particular standard, but everyone I know seems to understand it. As a result, many of the things I build are considerably heavier than need be, but rarely break.

    Real dancing elephants are quite rare, so I don't usually get to truly field test my constructions. It's so difficult to assemble 10 of them in one place. =^..^=

    As long as you don't want them to jump - that might be a tad trickier.....

  9. #19
    Technician Schluken's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    St. Cloud
    Posts
    13
    Rep Power
    20

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    We have been using the solid gray rollers from the 4035\5035 and km-4050\5050 models and they have been running longer at less then the cost of the originals in the machine. The part number is 2AR07230. They seem to be the ticket for us.

  10. #20
    Master Of The Obvious 10,000+ Posts
    Zeus Feed Rollers

    blackcat4866's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Lapeer, Michigan
    Posts
    22,471
    Rep Power
    463

    Re: Zeus Feed Rollers

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post

    With a bit of cheeky modification to the design it might be possible to do it in one operation....
    See attached image.
    RollerPress.jpg

    I just had a light bulb moment. The roller press can be done even simpler and smaller to fit in a work bag. I'll leave it for the time being. It would be interesting to see how many others pick up on the general idea.
    I took the liberty to photo-edit in your suggestion. I see a small mechanical issue. To illustrate the point I drew in the rollers as cutaways. Do you think that you can push the 14mm end of the hub through a 10mm oriface?

    Roller Press Revision.JPG

    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Get the Android App
click or scan for the Copytechnet Mobile App

-= -= -= -= -=


IDrive Remote Backup

Lunarpages Internet Solutions

Advertise on Copytechnet

Your Link Here