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jabatt
03-25-2018, 01:19 PM
minolta bizhub C284 => to C364
C224e => to C284e
C284e => to C364e
C022eDN => to C028eDN
C028eDN => to C036eDN
224e => to 284e
284e => to 364e Upgrade
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copyman
03-25-2018, 02:04 PM
OK. So I guess you are saying this tool will convert the machines into the faster versions? Why? Are you planning on selling these? price?

Haven't heard anything like this since the bizhub 250 where you could reprogram the little eprom on main board and turn it into a 350. Not sure I would want to attempt this with these newer machines. Worried enough about strange things happening with these machine don't want to add to that. I guess it would be good for those customers that say "wish their machine was faster". But I don't hear that much so not a problem.

rrrohan
03-25-2018, 02:39 PM
Guess it's no worse than over clocking a PC

copier tech
03-25-2018, 08:39 PM
No tool required, all you need is a few firmware files & a little knowledge

Copier Firmware - Canon Firmware, What Is Firmware, Ricoh Firmware (http://www.copierfirmware.co.uk)

copyman
03-25-2018, 10:31 PM
Hey copier tech. Yeah I've heard with Kon/Min all their segment machines are same from factory. What makes their speed is basically F/W.

Still not sure I want to attempt any changes to these newer models. Things have quieted down and I don't want to stir anything up:cool:

Phil B.
03-26-2018, 02:59 PM
not sure about KM... but I know when I was working on ricoh ... some of the drive parts in a slower machine weren't built to take the strain of higher speeds.. People can do as they please... but I for one would steer clear of actions like these.

copier tech
03-26-2018, 07:38 PM
Not really worth the effort converting a 224 - 284 all for an extra 6PPM

Chesterfield
04-26-2019, 06:32 PM
jabbat contact me thks

byronf
04-26-2019, 07:18 PM
minolta bizhub C284 => to C364
C224e => to C284e
C284e => to C364e
C022eDN => to C028eDN
C028eDN => to C036eDN
224e => to 284e
284e => to 364e Upgrade
39243

Hi I would love to give this a bash. how do I get one of these.

emujo2
04-26-2019, 08:07 PM
In KMs the speed of the machine remains the same..for instance a C364e transfer belt rotates at the same speed as the C224e..The PPM is achieved by page timing..So a C224e will pull paper through the machine at the same speed as a C364e..There is just a larger gap in the time between sheets fed. I still think you wind up with a dead machine trying this.

allan
04-26-2019, 08:28 PM
Sounds scamy to start with. Does this work or just in to con you out of some money??
Looks like a SSD writing thing and some ISW cable. Where is the header where you plug it in?
Where does the ISP side got to so you need the ISP device too?

Would be great but i would not claim or sell the difference in obtained speed i would leave the labels on the machines as is and just score off of the reduced rotation time on the parts!


Yes only paper feed interval is changed between models.

tulintron
04-26-2019, 08:55 PM
We've already switched speeds from Ricoh 907 to 1357.


Minolta 5500 to 6500 we can change the speed, but we can not change the serial number.


In both the PRO and Bizhub Office lines, in addition to firmware, you wire in different positions on the PRCB boards, which change the speed of the motors.


You have a card that needs to be rewritten.
Just firmware, will not succeed.

allan
04-27-2019, 06:21 AM
Wow would like if you guys can share more on this procedure. From the original post the info looks like it needs a lot of translation.

jotunn
04-28-2019, 12:18 AM
Sounds scamy to start with. Does this work or just in to con you out of some money??

Probably it works. However, there are more elegant ways to do it.

And... not all of those machines can be converted without trouble - some series have "universal" serial number labels, with all models mentioned on them, like this:

42459

Those machines are exactly the same. The other, with model specific labels, have missing wiring, sensors and sometimes other things, so they cannot be converted easily.
Generally, emujo2 is right, the machines only differ in the frequency of paper picking.
In the past, there were more significant differences between them, for example BH423 had reflective sensors in paper path instead of mechanical, BH363 and BH423 had the same mainboard, but BH223 and BH283 had different, so the only possible (easy) conversion was BH223->BH283.



Minolta 5500 to 6500 we can change the speed, but we can not change the serial number.

That's interesting :)
You cannot change S/N - maybe this is the key to convert between L and not L versions of C6000.


PS. I would like to contact with jabatt :)

arahael
04-28-2019, 11:39 AM
all you need is programmer, bin file from c364e to put it on 224e.. thats all from me.
and then change machine type ofc xD

Chesterfield
04-28-2019, 11:41 AM
hi contact me when possible arahael thanks.

Evans
12-17-2023, 02:02 PM
all you need is programmer, bin file from c364e to put it on 224e.. thats all from me.
and then change machine type ofc xD
Hello, can I get the bin file. My email is etechcopiersltd@gmail.com

Evans
12-22-2023, 10:00 AM
minolta bizhub C284 => to C364
C224e => to C284e
C284e => to C364e
C022eDN => to C028eDN
C028eDN => to C036eDN
224e => to 284e
284e => to 364e Upgrade
39243

Hello, can you give me the procedure on how to change C224 to C284

Evans
01-17-2024, 05:53 PM
minolta bizhub C284 => to C364
C224e => to C284e
C284e => to C364e
C022eDN => to C028eDN
C028eDN => to C036eDN
224e => to 284e
284e => to 364e Upgrade
39243hello, can you give the procedure . I got the tool and am unable to upgrade the machine

Evans
01-17-2024, 05:56 PM
all you need is programmer, bin file from c364e to put it on 224e.. thats all from me.
and then change machine type ofc xD
I have the programmer, kindly share the procedure to my email etechcopiersltd@gmail.com

copier tech
01-17-2024, 09:01 PM
Please see attached.

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allan
01-17-2024, 09:29 PM
What i like about upgrading say a C224e to a C364e is that the parts life will be improved. I will not use this kind of upgrade to be able to sell a C224e as a C364e. In the field I will do it and not even inform my contract customers of the change, the money saved on parts will be motivation enough.

otphas
01-17-2024, 10:32 PM
You can increase the speed on C224e to C284e or C364e for sure , you need to have some knowledge , a simple programmer and firmware, but only on copiers which on the back side label have all 3 models , we made one C224e to C364e without backside label have all 3 models, but this have no sense , need to install some sensors, wires and 1 Colling fan.

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