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    What do you expect from an 'oldfart' ?

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    I think that unions are outdated. Govt rules and regulations now in early 1900. Now theunions have more bureaucracy and politics is necessary to introduce.

    I will not choose to work in a place organized. And many of the small businessemploys no union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojorolla View Post

    My skills dictate what I make, not some slick haired, cigar smoking douche.


    Your boss dictates what you make. Whether he's a slick haired, cigar smoking douche is simply an aside.

    United, we bargain. Divided, we beg.

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    If you have to beg, you are not worth what you are making or the place you work is not worth working for.
    Never beg....


    Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemlock View Post
    Your boss dictates what you make. Whether he's a slick haired, cigar smoking douche is simply an aside.

    United, we bargain. Divided, we beg.
    Ummm if you don't like your pay then go get a job somewhere else. You DON'T have to be there. If they are not treating your right go work for someone else? Why do you feel they owe you?
    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRodgers View Post
    Ummm if you don't like your pay then go get a job somewhere else. You DON'T have to be there. If they are not treating your right go work for someone else? Why do you feel they owe you?
    Ditto. Vote with your feet. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    I worked in the print industry for 22 years prior to moving to copiers and had to take a pay cut to come to the trade.
    I was the union representative in the print company that I worked for and achieved a lot of good benefits for the staff....BUT....I wound up being painted as a troublemaker by my employer and wound up being laid off after 22 years.....Union didn't/couldn't/wouldn't help.
    Here in Australia the trend seems to be the same as you guys overseas...poor pay....paying for overnight accommodation and having the company "reimburse" you.etc etc.
    What I HAVE noticed is that if you are a decent tech you it's a passport to wherever the hell you want to go.
    The dealers that I've worked for value experience...maybe not financially but definitely opportunity wise

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    I would ask the new union to ban moving machines over a certain size. I aint a removalist, nor am I equiped to move shit up and down stairs. I think removalists are on a higher rate also so let them do it. (2 cents worth)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLADE View Post
    I would ask the new union to ban moving machines over a certain size. I aint a removalist, nor am I equiped to move shit up and down stairs. I think removalists are on a higher rate also so let them do it. (2 cents worth)
    Even if equipment movers are paid less, it shouldn't be in the tech's job description to move half-ton pieces of machinery, wrecking their back in teh process.

    Tech gets hurt, takes time off and files for workman's comp; who do you think gets fired/laid off/made redundant when things get tight?

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    Techs will always be at the bottom of the totem pole in this industry. Having a union isn't going to change that cold, hard fact...
    But I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard... to be the Shepherd.

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