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    ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Hey guys.

    A customers C1+ suddenly droped down in density of yellow.
    First changed developer filling -> no change.
    Then changed developer unit, and developer filling -> no change.

    Strange thing besides that: When initializing Yellow, E020-0586 appears, which refers to the clear toner dev....
    Second attempt to init works.

    CM and K are all good...

    Any ideas?

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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Recallibrated RIP - no change.
    Strange aswell: After INIT the fresh DEV, yellow gets even paler.
    Yellow is now at approx 20% density, when printing PG5 with 255 dens-Y

    No one an idea?

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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    Recallibrated RIP - no change.
    Strange aswell: After INIT the fresh DEV, yellow gets even paler.
    Yellow is now at approx 20% density, when printing PG5 with 255 dens-Y

    No one an idea?
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    Performing a Developer Change on the imagePRESS C1 or imagePRESS C1+/and Clear Developer. see pdf

    some techs skip steps------------


    E020 - 0586 error code is indicated after replacing Y/C/M/K starters.
    This error code is referring to the Clear Toner (L) patch which is not measured at the referenced value by the patch image read sensor.


    In a couple of cases, replacing the Clear Toner starter resolved the error code.


    Developing BIAS Input Assembly resides on the front plate of the P-Kit.
    When the Developer Units rotate and are positioned for development, the BIAS tab rubs against the Developing BIAS Input Assembly to receive the developing BIAS.
    The part number is FM2-2662-000.





    primary and secondary transfer rollers
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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Thanks Teckat.

    Wouldn't the Developing BIAS Kit, aswell as primary and secondary transfer rollers affect all colours - and not just one?

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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    Thanks Teckat.

    Wouldn't the Developing BIAS Kit, aswell as primary and secondary transfer rollers affect all colours - and not just one?
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    did u follow procedure on Starter Replacement ? or did u wing it ?

    Yellow unit must make contact with bias tab on rotation

    Is Y Dev> receiving Y Toner


    Full Area Half Tone (TYPE=5) what does that look like for Yellow
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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by teckat View Post
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    did u follow procedure on Starter Replacement ? or did u wing it ?

    Yellow unit must make contact with bias tab on rotation

    Is Y Dev> receiving Y Toner


    Full Area Half Tone (TYPE=5) what does that look like for Yellow
    Followed the procedure exactly.
    Checked contacts..seem fine.
    Tried 2 different dev units, same result.
    PG type 5 looks like 10-20% dens max, when sent with 255 value - barely visible.

    How would i check if the dev recieves toner? Tape the input hole and perform SPPLY-Y, then check if there's toner on the tape?

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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    Followed the procedure exactly.
    Checked contacts..seem fine.
    Tried 2 different dev units, same result.
    PG type 5 looks like 10-20% dens max, when sent with 255 value - barely visible.

    How would i check if the dev recieves toner? Tape the input hole and perform SPPLY-Y, then check if there's toner on the tape?

    u have any error codes in history ?
    does it look like toner is on Y DEV MAG ROLLER ?
    should be a rich yellow & not a washed out metallic look
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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Thanks Teckat.

    Programmed the DENS Values from the door, then made a few blank copies. Yellow went better and better..
    Now it's all up and running again.

    Seems like it was an air bubble in the toner transportation?!?

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    Re: ImagePress C1+ weak Yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by mynameis View Post
    Thanks Teckat.

    Programmed the DENS Values from the door, then made a few blank copies. Yellow went better and better..
    Now it's all up and running again.

    Seems like it was an air bubble in the toner transportation?!?
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    interesting

    always shake the toner or any toner bottle bottle before placing in printer

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