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    Advance C250if drum counter

    I am looking to buy a C250if from a wholesaler that is showing around 3k color prints but when I go into the drum counter it says the drums are at 999%. Does this mean someone swapped the drums before selling it to the wholesaler? I know the wholesaler didn't do it since they only pick up end of lease and repo's, it would have had to happen at a dealer. Also has this model been a reliable model or are they prone to not so routine problems?


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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    COPIER> COUNTER> LF---for all colors
    To display how much it is close to the end of life that is calculated from the value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB in percentage (%).
    When a new part is set, the value becomes 0%.
    It cannot be changed manually.

    Use case = When checking the life of Drum Unit
    Display/adj/set range 0 to 999
    Unit 1 %
    ================================================== ===

    Drum Unit Life Detection

    Life of the Drum Unit (Photosensitive Drum) is detected.
    This machine does not have a Photosensitive Drum film thickness detection mechanism
    so the change in the film thickness is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
    Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied.

    Detection description
    1) The count value for the drum life is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
    Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied as well as the time that the
    developing AC bias is applied.
    2) The count value calculated in step 1 of "Control description" is added to the drum
    count value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB of the Drum Unit.

    NOTE:
    The life (displayed in %) can be checked by the following service mode:
    Drum counter life display (Y)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > Y-DRM-LF
    Drum counter life display (M)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > M-DRM-LF
    Drum counter life display (C)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > C-DRM-LF
    Drum counter life display (Bk)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > K-DRM-LF





    PT-DRM Drum Unit (Bk) parts counter
    ---same for Drum Unit (Y)/Drum Unit (M)/Drum Unit (C)
    Lv.1 Details
    1st line: Total counter value from the previous replacement
    2nd line: Estimated life
    The value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB is displayed.
    It cannot be changed manually.

    Use case
    When checking the consumption level of parts/replacing the parts
    Adj/set/operate method =
    To clear the counter value: Select the item, and then press Clear key.■
    To change the estimated life: Select the item, enter the value, and
    then press OK key.
    Caution - none
    Display/adj/set range = 0 to 99999999
    Default value = 0

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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    Quote Originally Posted by teckat View Post
    COPIER> COUNTER> LF---for all colors
    To display how much it is close to the end of life that is calculated from the value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB in percentage (%).
    When a new part is set, the value becomes 0%.
    It cannot be changed manually.

    Use case = When checking the life of Drum Unit
    Display/adj/set range 0 to 999
    Unit 1 %
    ================================================== ===

    Drum Unit Life Detection

    Life of the Drum Unit (Photosensitive Drum) is detected.
    This machine does not have a Photosensitive Drum film thickness detection mechanism
    so the change in the film thickness is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
    Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied.

    Detection description
    1) The count value for the drum life is calculated by the rotation time of the Photosensitive
    Drum + time that the primary charging DC bias is applied as well as the time that the
    developing AC bias is applied.
    2) The count value calculated in step 1 of "Control description" is added to the drum
    count value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB of the Drum Unit.

    NOTE:
    The life (displayed in %) can be checked by the following service mode:
    Drum counter life display (Y)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > Y-DRM-LF
    Drum counter life display (M)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > M-DRM-LF
    Drum counter life display (C)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > C-DRM-LF
    Drum counter life display (Bk)
    COPIER > COUNTER > LF > K-DRM-LF





    PT-DRM Drum Unit (Bk) parts counter
    ---same for Drum Unit (Y)/Drum Unit (M)/Drum Unit (C)
    Lv.1 Details
    1st line: Total counter value from the previous replacement
    2nd line: Estimated life
    The value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB is displayed.
    It cannot be changed manually.

    Use case
    When checking the consumption level of parts/replacing the parts
    Adj/set/operate method =
    To clear the counter value: Select the item, and then press Clear key.■
    To change the estimated life: Select the item, enter the value, and
    then press OK key.
    Caution - none
    Display/adj/set range = 0 to 99999999
    Default value = 0
    I'm not sure if you are answering my question. The counter in service mode is saying the color drums are at 999% usage. Am I not understanding what your answer is?


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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    Depends where in service mode location u are looking.

    One % can not be changed--on each individual Drum Unit Memory pcb.

    Parts % counters are different.
    Life % has nothing to do with amount of prints/copies, that depends on amount of coverage on paper.

    Did u look at the PT-DRM Values ??
    Line one can not be changed, locked into each units memory. see above.

    Counter -LF can not be changed manually.
    If this is 999% u have used drums, copy quality depends on how much coverage they were used on Printing.

    Example,
    If last owner made 3,000 color prints/copies at 50% page coverage , that would effect the CQ quality, if owner only printed at the Canon standard 6% coverage that fit into its standard.

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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    First off this machine is old and obsolete. Are you sure you are reading the count right? The old models were opposite of new machines how the black squares show. Don't think that model has the "E" (empty) "F" (full) next to squares which made it very confusing. Also with that model so old it's possible that it's saying 99% because the machine counts drum rotations not only how many pages have been used. If quality looks good I would assume they are the original drums and would chip them and be done with it.

    By the way let me know if you need anything for it down the road. I have 2 working machines that I will be stripping parts off of to be sold on ebay.


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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    First off this machine is old and obsolete. Are you sure you are reading the count right? The old models were opposite of new machines how the black squares show. Don't think that model has the "E" (empty) "F" (full) next to squares which made it very confusing. Also with that model so old it's possible that it's saying 99% because the machine counts drum rotations not only how many pages have been used. If quality looks good I would assume they are the original drums and would chip them and be done with it.

    By the way let me know if you need anything for it down the road. I have 2 working machines that I will be stripping parts off of to be sold on ebay.

    Old !!
    The Advanced C250if was released in 2014.

    Have 25 year canon color products that still work like a charm.

    NP300 , now that's an old product

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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    Haha long day driving, sorry wrong OEM model. Was thinking of Kon-Min C250


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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    Quote Originally Posted by teckat View Post
    Old !!
    The Advanced C250if was released in 2014.

    Have 25 year canon color products that still work like a charm.

    NP300 , now that's an old product
    No NP 200 or even L7. I have worked on Canon products since 1973 when Saxon PPC1 was the same as the Canon L7 liquid copier. Now those were crap.


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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    I think I have been reading these percentages wrong. I thought it was amount of life used and not the amount left. (counter, DBL 1, drums)


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    Re: Advance C250if drum counter

    Quote Originally Posted by campy View Post
    I think I have been reading these percentages wrong. I thought it was amount of life used and not the amount left. (counter, DBL 1, drums)

    This is the most important setting

    in service mode> under

    COPIER> COUNTER> LF---for all colors

    To display how much it is close to the end of life that is calculated from the value stored in the Drum Unit Memory PCB in percentage (%).


    When a new part is set, the value becomes 0%.

    It cannot be changed manually.

    Use case = When checking the life of Drum Unit
    Display/adj/set range 0 to 999
    Unit 1 %


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