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    Thank you mrfixit. It's actually got 530K, mostly out of tray #1. Tray #2 is legal and hardly used.

    I did examine the pickup & lift sector gears. Isn't it just like Canon to save $0.10 by not using a lift motor or feed clutch? Do these sector gears hold up to heavy use? =^..^=
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    be careful of what type of oil u use there

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    Quote Originally Posted by teckat View Post
    be careful of what type of oil u use there
    I actually use transmission fluid, not oil, it's lubricity is as good as any oil, and it never gums up like oil can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrfixit51 View Post
    I actually use transmission fluid, not oil, it's lubricity is as good as any oil, and it never gums up like oil can.

    know what u mean/ i have had tech's use oil inside bushings that turns into a black hard gummy substance / talk about a troubleshooters nightmare

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    so one way bearings/gears slip more when dry than lubricated? i only have 6 years in the feild now and have always sanded and alcohol dried the shafts to prevent slip. am i doing this all wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magebomba View Post
    so one way bearings/gears slip more when dry than lubricated? i only have 6 years in the feild now and have always sanded and alcohol dried the shafts to prevent slip. am i doing this all wrong?
    I would not sand a polished shaft that uses a one way bearing / it will effect the friction of the pins in bearing / if u look at the one bearing , u will see it is packed with lube at the factory/ cleaning shaft w/alcohol ok !! / also never sand a shaft that uses a composite type metal bushing/

    metal shaft issues = friction>heat build up>+wrong lube= A Large Headache !!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magebomba View Post
    so one way bearings/gears slip more when dry than lubricated? i only have 6 years in the feild now and have always sanded and alcohol dried the shafts to prevent slip. am i doing this all wrong?
    As Teckat alluded to, the one ways are pre lubed, but I always add a few drops of oil to them anyway. I have worked with one-ways, (we referred to them as torrington clutchs in the olden golden days at IBM), for a very long time, and they wear out sooner if not lubricated.

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    Yes, as everyone has said, the shaft must be smooth and full diameter to function properly, and lubricated with a light oil. When they dry out the movable roller bearing do not grab right and it begins to slip, or lag in grabbing the shaft.

    This is a common mistake with magnetic clutches too. Some techs try to sand the clutch surfaces to create more friction. Friction is not the way the clutch works. It uses electro-magnetism. And to get the most magnetism you need the maximum contacting surface area. So don't sand the clutch plates. It just reduces the surface area, making it slip more than before. And no oil either.



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    thanks guys

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    hi there
    u can use WD40 for this kind of bearing it cleans and lub in same time without any future gummy things inside.

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