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    Does anyone know how to connect copier counter from IR5070 board??

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    there are plenty of End Users using this site to gather information, you can tell by their questions & answers

    even an untrained tech should have some knowledge on copy process & using a meter. if they don't , they need to find a job doing something else
    **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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    i think only an end user could post such a thread;

    of course technically it's possible to connect a mechanical counter;in fact, it would not be very accurate to pick the pulse at pick-up clutch due to jams;rather picked the pulse somewhere at the exit.

    but i'm still curious to read the poster's answer!!

    cheers

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    Does anyone know how to connect copier counter from IR5070 board??

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    Quote Originally Posted by fchu5959 View Post
    ... of course technically it's possible to connect a mechanical counter;in fact, it would not be very accurate to pick the pulse at pick-up clutch due to jams;rather picked the pulse somewhere at the exit.

    but i'm still curious to read the poster's answer!!

    cheers
    I concede that false pickups would count as copies. And, some of the Kyocera Mita and HP machines will make three attempts at pickup before it gives up. So if the enduser has 2 jams, they could conceivably count as 6 copies. The Hecon key is a better solution. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    I have also seen the IR1600 double pulse as the feed clutch gets dirty. Any card (key) counter connection would require a different counter as that output is only 5VDC.

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    Oh my god! You guys are saying that there's no way to work this unknown analog counter.
    Basically, there's no contract with machine and I am running two print shops by myself and machine as well.
    I need to track customer's copier usage everytime and it is absolutely easier to my workers.
    If that guy is not working, is there any alternatives to track customer's usage from cashier's desk?

    I know this is crazy, but I really want to know some alternatives.
    I think some guys are Canon service man from the reply and I hope you guys can help me out.
    I appreciate all you guys help!

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    Does anyone know how to connect copier counter from IR5070 board??

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    someone would have to break out the schematic for this machine and you would have to tap into the wiring that pulses the digital counter on the machine. We did this a long time ago on the NP and GP series for a small copy center but those machines used the analog counters so it was easy....not so sure in this case.
    Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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    Does anyone know how to connect copier counter from IR5070 board??

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    someone would have to find the circuit for the counter and you would have to tap into that wiring in order to see if that analog counter would function correctly...this could cause issues with digital counter on the device. We connected those counter on the old NP and GP models for a small copy center many years ago, but technology is much better now. IMO I wouldn't mess with this. Not worth the $$$ if it messes up the machine.
    Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartdigitalcentre View Post
    I have a analog type copier counter and I need to connect it to IR5070.

    Does anyone know how to do it?

    Best regards!!
    he ask anyone to know to connect a counter. he didn't ask about is it right or wrong. if you know the possibility just say can. it is very easy to built a analog counter. canon stop it due to reduce the cost they put software counter. a simple circuit cost 2$ can give a accurate count. i agree i am not a canon certified technician. this is basic electronics. it will not take more then 10 min. to do. canon did in previous models. same thing any electronics engineer can do. there is no alteration needed in machine just get a signal from delivery sensor.

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