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    Does anyone know how to connect copier counter from IR5070 board??

    I have a analog type copier counter and I need to connect it to IR5070.

    Does anyone know how to do it?

    Best regards!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartdigitalcentre View Post
    I have a analog type copier counter and I need to connect it to IR5070.

    Does anyone know how to do it?

    Best regards!!


    call the company that is listed on the 3rd Party counter device


    if it's a EQUITRAC
    on the>
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    Cable Comes Standard With Device
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    This may not be a 3rd party device, but rather a Canon one.

    This isn't a Canon card controller, is it?

    It uses punched "credit cards" to control access.
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    Hello there!
    thank you for you guys help but I have none of canon card controller or canon control device.
    What I have is just unkown analog counter which has two electrical line that can connect to part of copier board.
    I have several ricoh 2045 and I opened back of copier then took out board. I did soldering and works perfect with some copier settings.
    Is there anyway that I can do like ricoh job?
    Thanks God bless!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smartdigitalcentre View Post

    Hello there!
    thank you for you guys help but I have none of canon card controller or canon control device.
    What I have is just unkown analog counter which has two electrical line that can connect to part of copier board.
    I have several ricoh 2045 and I opened back of copier then took out board. I did soldering and works perfect with some copier settings.
    Is there anyway that I can do like ricoh job?
    Thanks God bless!


    ANALOG= no way will it work/

    why are u trying to do this ???
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    HI
    Like teckat,i'm curious to know why you want to connect a mechanical counter??
    Quote Originally Posted by smartdigitalcentre View Post
    I have a analog type copier counter and I need to connect it to IR5070.

    Does anyone know how to do it?

    Best regards!!

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    Unlike teckat & fchu5959 I don't really care why you want to connect the mechanical counter. Maybe you just don't trust the digital counter. It wouldn't be the first time that a digital counter was inaccurate. Maybe you've got a public access machine, and you want the counter to be easier to read for the endusers.

    There is no reason why you couldn't connect it like this:
    Mount the counter in a convenient location. Leave the modular connector on the wires, and find a mating connector from the scrapyard. Here is where you'll require a little experimentation. You should be able to connect the two leads from the counter to the two leads from registration clutch. The counter is a solenoid operated mechanism, so it probably won't make any difference which wire goes to which.

    You could even go crazy, and have the counter tripped by a pickup clutch signal giving you a specific count for each tray. Of course that could require three or more counters, but counters are easy enough to come by.

    Now keep in mind that you will not get double count for ledger. Just one click per page. Let me know how it goes. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    If u are a Tech. You better make sure this machine does not have a contract. If u create a short , it's your ass that will be cooked.

    we had techs do this on the side to contracted machines, don't have to tell u where they are now.

    Another point for everyone who wants to try this_if u are an Authorized dealer of CANON products and by some chance u need one of there support people to come look at your product and they see that counter, they will take note of serial number & walk out of the account, u will then never get support on that product

    Believe me- I have see this happen to our contracted machines in Print Shops/ they would have someone hook up a counter to keep near a cash register. This is why we don't give contracts to print shops or even service their products.

    Owners of them are the most untruthful people I have ever meet .
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    Does anyone know how to connect copier counter from IR5070 board??

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    Well sure, If you're not a Canon tech you'll void any warranty on the machine. But this is a forum for technicians. What would an enduser be doing here?

    You know Hecon make a counter that's probably compatible with your machine. Look here:
    Keycounters and RCC
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Unlike teckat & fchu5959 I don't really care why you want to connect the mechanical counter. Maybe you just don't trust the digital counter. It wouldn't be the first time that a digital counter was inaccurate. Maybe you've got a public access machine, and you want the counter to be easier to read for the endusers.

    There is no reason why you couldn't connect it like this:
    Mount the counter in a convenient location. Leave the modular connector on the wires, and find a mating connector from the scrapyard. Here is where you'll require a little experimentation. You should be able to connect the two leads from the counter to the two leads from registration clutch. The counter is a solenoid operated mechanism, so it probably won't make any difference which wire goes to which.

    You could even go crazy, and have the counter tripped by a pickup clutch signal giving you a specific count for each tray. Of course that could require three or more counters, but counters are easy enough to come by.

    Now keep in mind that you will not get double count for ledger. Just one click per page. Let me know how it goes. =^..^=
    I totally agree with Blackcat.

    For a bit more info, I know that the Canon machines always used a 24 volt pulse.
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