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    Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Quote Originally Posted by Canon.Tech View Post
    Too much grease, too little or the wrong type will cause jamming and/or smudges.

    The fixing films are not very reliable on this model so f
    it a genuine Caning fixing film ass’y and move on!!
    Amen to that !

    But as they say : To each - its own...

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Quote Originally Posted by copyalbania View Post
    I have problems with Canon model IR 4570.

    I have changed the fusing film and mount the fusing into the machine but it keep jamming the paper just it passes the fusing unit.

    I put the same fusing unit into a different machine but the same problem happened ( it jams just it passes the fusing unit).

    I have changed the sensor that is in the fusing unit but the same problem.

    Can anyone help me ?
    Make sure the pressure roll is really not of this equipment and IR2270. Check the pressure of the pressure springs uf.check and clean the sensor behind the transfer unit. Make sure the rod record is not worn.

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Quote Originally Posted by teckat View Post
    did u add an extra wrap to sensor PS13 ?

    your paper stops in fuser ? or on exit ??

    don't know about using fuser grease
    Hello Teckat,

    i have not riparied yet the machine.
    i have put another new fusing film ( compatible ), the fusing film has its own grease.
    i cleaned before i put the new grease.
    i checked the sensor and the other parts but i did not see any problem.
    but still the paper jams just it goes out of the fusing unit and in the jam error it shows 0207 that means PS13 sensor.

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Quote Originally Posted by copyalbania View Post
    Hello Teckat,

    i have not riparied yet the machine.
    i have put another new fusing film ( compatible ), the fusing film has its own grease.
    i cleaned before i put the new grease.
    i checked the sensor and the other parts but i did not see any problem.
    but still the paper jams just it goes out of the fusing unit and in the jam error it shows 0207 that means PS13 sensor.



    OPTIONS---
    - printer thinks trail edge of paper has not passed over flag -PS13

    SLOW EXIT
    =

    PRESSURE ISSUE
    DELAY
    or FLAG OPERATION AFTER TRAIL EDGE OF PAPER PASSES OVER FLAG
    -add a wrap to the spring on flag
    -check signal at sensor in I/O mode Service Mode
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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    I use the right krytox grease.

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Quote Originally Posted by teckat View Post
    OPTIONS---
    - printer thinks trail edge of paper has not passed over flag -PS13

    SLOW EXIT
    =

    PRESSURE ISSUE
    DELAY
    or FLAG OPERATION AFTER TRAIL EDGE OF PAPER PASSES OVER FLAG
    -add a wrap to the spring on flag
    -check signal at sensor in I/O mode Service Mode

    Hello people,

    I have suspenseful repaired the machine and the problem was the spring of the sensor PS13, i just make two turns and the machine worked ok.
    Thank you to everyone.

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Quote Originally Posted by copyalbania View Post
    Hello people,

    I have suspenseful repaired the machine and the problem was the spring of the sensor PS13, i just make two turns and the machine worked ok.
    Thank you to everyone.


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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    Mine keeps jamming like this
    IMG_20150820_182432.jpg
    Here's the code:
    IMG_20150820_182559.jpg
    IMG_20150820_182550.jpg
    i Tried checking the fixing and i forgot to turn it off... (My bad)
    Then after i reboot the machine it gives me this:
    IMG_20150820_213646.jpg
    i Can actually clear the error. PS 13 sensor works fine. the retraction is quick .

    Recent activity:
    Change fixing film, i did put fixing grease and it is rolling fine..
    Did check the paper dial, all good
    Paper: Sub20

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    Re: Canon IR 4570 paper jam in fuser !!

    0108
    jam code is a delay jam to PS14
    When the jam occurres, the trail edge of the page would be accordion folded at the fixing assembly.

    Remove the damper pads for the fixing delivery reversal flapper
    .

    or-----------------
    Check for a broken 1st paper delivery flapper in the 2nd delivery frame assembly.
    The part, FL2-1212-030 can be seen in the image below.

    part tends to break at the point where the solenoid actuates the flapper.


    Check to make sure the Locking Plate is installed in the correct position (see below).

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