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Old 11-18-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Angry Fiery X2e + Minolta CF 910 no connection under Windows XP

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so I´ve got a problem with a single PC connected over a crossover ethernet to a fiery X2e.

I can ping the fiery but got no real connection- can not print and cannot go into the set up of the fiery.

Can anybody give me the specs (network specs, protocoll etc...) of the fiery connection under windows xp?

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I would print out the config page and see what you've got from there. Is this a new install? My first thought is to reset the Fiery to the factory settings and start over.
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sounds like a classic Bios failure on the motherboard. hook a chain to the machine and use is as a boat anchor.
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@cobiray

new install - yes and no
It was formerly installed and then moved to a private office.

I´ve got the admin guide for the fiery but no panel (the x2e is the internal fiery). So i have not the slightest idea how to rest the fiery - any hint?

I´ve just hoped that I could use the old settings and go in.

So I cannot print a config page of the fiery.
I got the fiery ip over my network and i can ping it - but nothing more.

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No way and never-

I really love the shining copies the minolta makes and so at last (or better at least ) it is a fantastic copier.

.... and with a weight of over 450 lbs built to last




But anyway- I really appreciate the speedy answers.

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How is your port configured on the PC? I think the port should be set up as LPR with the queue name of direct or print. Also enable byte counting.

If that doesn't work...

If you use the controls and display on the front of the Fiery, you should be able to get to a PRINT PAGES portion to print the config sheet. Also in this menu is the SETUP menu. If you can print a config page, I'm going to assume the hardware is ok. Yu can print a color test page and job log through this menu too. If you are ok wiping it out, you can use the RESET DEFAULT (or something like that) in the set up menu.
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Ok...I´ll try it with print - I think I already tried but i´m not quite sure- in my techfiles it is said print_PRN-M and I´m sur I tried this.

Byte counting is a possibillity - I´ll try.

LPR I´ve already tried.

But to your tips for reset:
It is an internal fiery - no buttons, no switches just a RJ 45 and a special fiery LPT and a socket for the panel-
no way to go in any menu...



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I agree with Cobiray. Forget about trying to print over ethernet. Every embedded fiery Ive worked has a way to navigate thru the display to do a setup. From the fiery menu if you can generate an internal print it means that the pba is probably good and then its on to your connection. If you cant access the fiery menu its probably the fiery main pba. Good Luck!
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Does it have a menu through the control panel? You should be able to get to it through there, I assume? We didn't sell any of the 910's but we had quite a few 900's with the external X-J's and Z-X's. Is that the print-only version?

The Fiery interface is pretty much unchanged in the last 10 years, so when you find it the directions should be the same. If you can get a config page out and scan it in, we can look at it to see if a setting needs changed. The only thing I can think is if it wasn't using TCP/IP and it was disabled in the set up.

Did it come from an XP environment at the previous location? I hate to ask, but have you swapped out the crossover cable?

I've never seen the queue's named anything other than print, direct and hold. I won't swear it won't work with what you stated, but the print and direct have always worked for me.
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@turkeyfoot
I can´t acces the fiery, as i got no panel for the fiery- so the only way to acces would be over the ethernet.



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Does it have a menu through the control panel?
Maybe- but I got no control panel !
Is that the print-only version?
No- the x2e can scan

Did it come from an XP environment at the previous location?
----I´m not quite sure – but most probably

I hate to ask, but have you swapped out the crossover cable?
------Never mind for asking – simple tries are always best.
But I´ve already swapped the crossover cable

I've never seen the queue's named anything other than print, direct and hold. I won't swear it won't work with what you stated, but the print and direct have always worked for me.

----It didn´t work – but anyhow that would not bring me into the fiery websetup.

In my techfiles this was said:
Minolta
Fiery XJ, SI, and ZX 2100/3100 print_Copier-M
Fiery X2[E] print_PRN-M
DI181 PORT1 9100
DI250 PORT1 10001
PI6000 any name
PI6200 (Fiery) print



I´ve got the Minolta from a business unit without any further information that it was printing with a crossover cable connected with a standalone pc.
Most probably Windows XP (the minolta with the fiery is compatible by ms for windows xp).
And now I want to install it for my brother (carpenter with own workshop/small company).
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Ok, by print only I mean you can't walk up with an original and make a copy. It's a network device only. Can you use it as a copier? If you can use it as a copier then it has a control panel.

Something curious, the user guide for the Fiery shows that it has a control panel of it's own somewhere. I'm shooting in the dark on this one since I've never seen one. But the CF910 was just the upgraded CF900, which I've seen. Never had my hands on this model Fiery unfortunately.
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