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    Charging toner with carrier

    Hi guys,

    Just a quick and rather odd question. Does a larger toner generate a greater Q/m then a smaller toner assuming both toners are made up of the same "stuff"

    Thanks in advance,

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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    Yes ... but not for the reason you think. When I first started out in the business 25 years ago the toner particle size was at least 3x larger than today's toner. Those analog machines needed proportionately more tribo-electric effect to hold the larger toner particles to the developer. Don't forget though that analog toner has the opposite charge as digital toner. =^..^=
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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Yes ... but not for the reason you think. When I first started out in the business 25 years ago the toner particle size was at least 3x larger than today's toner. Those analog machines needed proportionately more tribo-electric effect to hold the larger toner particles to the developer. Don't forget though that analog toner has the opposite charge as digital toner. =^..^=

    Im a little confused between analogue and digital printing, can you please elaborate?

    Thanks

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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    Quote Originally Posted by curious george View Post
    Im a little confused between analogue and digital printing, can you please elaborate?

    Thanks

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    Analogue copying uses scan photo conduction directly down to the drum via a set of mirrors. After primary charge a latent image forms/remains directly on the drum during the scan; ready to develope.

    Digital copying uses photo conduction but replaces the last scan mirror with an analogue to digital CCD, which creates digital encoded data.
    After primary charge on the drum the digital encoded data drives a laser beam which is then scanned across the drum to produce the latent image ready for development.

    The above is a very simplified analogy.....
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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    Thanks, Neo. =^..^=
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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    Understood, thanks guys.

    Out of curiosity, can you still get carrier with a large diameter (200µm)?

    Thanks in advance CG

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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    What are you building/constructing George ?
    You seem to be interested in the finer details of photo static technology ?
    You're not building a better toner-bomb are you?

    There are members on this forum who can help you with that.....
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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    If you're hoping to reverse engineer a digital copier, I'm going to strongly advise against it. Copier companies often hire a team of guys who's sole responsibility is to design such equipment. Some are better ... some are worse, and all of them are exponentially better than anything I could come up with.

    In the egotism of my youth I thought that I could improve on the manufacturer's designs, and I could definitely criticize them, but any improvements I could make would only be incremental in the broad scheme of things. =^..^=
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    Re: Charging toner with carrier

    hi guys,

    No toner bombs, and definitely not reverse engineering any copier/printer. I know they are highly specialised and the guys who are designing the copiers are all PhDs in Physics, something which i am not!.

    I was, as my name suggests, curious

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