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    I don't have much experience in inkjet technology, but I saw so many problems from non oem products in laser world that I have to advise anyone: think twice before using these types of products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pentacon6 View Post
    I am new to the copier world. I have worked with ink jet technology for years. With my ink jet machines, in most cases, the bulk ink is FAR better than the ink from the original manufacturer. My Printers equipped with continuous ink supply systems and fed non-oem (but quality)ink have more consistent color, less occasions of clogging and generally require less maintenance than the originally intended alternative. the prints, in my personal experience and comparisons show greater permanence. In many cases the non oem ink costs a fraction (95% less somtimes) of the oem (in cartridge) product. Obviously this is not the same for copiers and powdered toners. Whoops!
    I would say that views such as these can be very subjective, my own experience is the polar opposite of everything you just claimed.

    For my own part I have worked with both inkjet & toner based technology for 10 years covering everything from small printers & multifunctions to large copiers & wide format printers. Primarily that has been with Canon & Brother products so I am willing to accept that other brands may have had better results with non genuine consumables, but equally I have seen poor results in every major brand of machine from the use of 3rd party products.

    Not all toners & inks are created equal, and obviously while some 3rd party products are actually decent quality, the majority of them are not. I have found many of the non genuine inks are inconsistant with the OEM colours, producing very weird gradients, especially on the high end photo printers. They are also often very watery when compared to the OEM inks, which results in either excessive leaking or build up which clogs the purge/cleaning mechanisms and shortens the life of the waste ink absorbers.

    The other point of contention is that most modern machines use patented ink formulas, making it impossible for 3rd parties to truthfully claim their product is 'superior' or 'identical' unless they have breached the patent. Some of those missing ingredients can be chemicals that are used to lubricate the printhead or stabilise the colour which has a significant impact on the quality and life of the printer.

    I have also seen unscrupulous refillers & remanufactorers buying food dyes and using them as substitutes. It is not limited to ink but some of them also buy one brand of toner in bulk, say HP for example, and then use it to refill any brand of cartridge that walks through their door, not realising that different machines have different imaging processes that rely on a specific mix of components being present in the toner.

    I could probably rant for days on this subject, but the point is it is not a straight forward issue as people like to think at times.

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