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    Re: Houston we have lift off !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    Finally got it to work. Think it was the flash drives I was using. Tried installing the firmware with copier addict's trick and it didn't work on 1, 2, or 4 GB's cheap flash drives. It didn't even recognize and booted right to basic screen. Finally tried a SanDisk 32GB and it worked. So much for cheap flash drives and K/M saying to use 2GB or less!

    Thanks again everyone for the suggestions.

    PS, I don't think I'll ever like firmware
    I have used a sandisk 8 gig cruzer blade and works fine for me.

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    Re: Houston we have lift off !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brett GS View Post
    I have used a sandisk 8 gig cruzer blade and works fine for me.
    I use a cheapy staples relay 8GB and it always works

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    another question about F/W

    When you write new firmware onto a flash drive that already has F/W on it do you format it every time before writing new F/W? Or just delete it off flash drive then write new F/W?

    Thanks

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    Re: another question about F/W

    Quote Originally Posted by copyman View Post
    When you write new firmware onto a flash drive that already has F/W on it do you format it every time before writing new F/W? Or just delete it off flash drive then write new F/W?

    Thanks
    Formatting once is fine. Just delete off old files, copy on new files. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: WTF! It can't be this hard to install Firmware

    Thanks. That's what I thought but wanted to be sure.

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    Re: WTF! It can't be this hard to install Firmware

    Just came across this and thought it might be useful to someone:


    Approved USB Drives for KM machines:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/f7yv6k48ls1yst0/Approved%20USB%20Drives.PDF?dl=0

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    Re: WTF! It can't be this hard to install Firmware

    Quote Originally Posted by mrwho View Post
    Just a tip from a Ricoh-tech that used to be a KM tech (meaning it's been a long time since I've last updated a KM machine):

    Try to completely erase the flash drive's partition (Right click on My Computer -> Manage -> Storage -> Disk Management or using any Partition Management software - Be VERY careful not to erase any other partition on your computer or you'll lose everything there) and then create a FAT32 partition from scratch on the thumb drive.

    Maybe that'll help...
    This is what I am now doing every time I want to format the USB sticks. (since I started using VM on mac)

    And today I had a very interesting thing.

    When machine was hooked to network and is running on papercut. I tried loading firmware using the same stick I used yesterday on C454e today on the same model. And guess what. During loading. It managed to load ADF and Scanner and on Saddle stitch it gave N.G.2 and froze.

    after about 25min I switched machine off and unplugged network. Re-formatted USB using the above method, copied firmware, plugged it in, switched machine on and within 3 minutes it came with usual firmware boot screen. Loaded firmware no problem.

    So either network have to be unplugged or something happened to the stick in the last 24hrs.
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    Re: WTF! It can't be this hard to install Firmware

    Quote Originally Posted by habik View Post
    ... So either network have to be unplugged or something happened to the stick in the last 24hrs.
    For one thing I always disconnect the network when doing firmware, or even color calibration. It's extremely annoying for print jobs to boot you out of your desired screen. It's also entertaining to watch the ever growing group of visitors staring at the exit tray, but unwilling to ask.

    For another, maybe the MFP just needed a second attempt. =^..^=
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    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: WTF! It can't be this hard to install Firmware

    Just FYI. When deleting USB files on mac it keeps cash of the files until you format it. So you can delete only so many times then it flonks you out that there is no space despite nothing being on the stick.

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    Re: WTF! It can't be this hard to install Firmware

    This branch uses Kingston 8Gb USB "thumb drives" and those things take a lot of abuse before failing.
    I've accidentally washed more than one in the past five years, and after letting them air dry they've worked fine.
    I don't format every time. I just check existing files, see if I need to keep them, if not I delete them all (shift+delete) and then move the necessary files to the root of the drive.
    I also have a personal preference: I take the firmware folder, cut out all the contents and paste them to the root of the drive in addition to the (now empty) named firmware folder, depending on which machine is getting the firmware. (C35 has a dedicated 4Gb drive because of the specific requirements for firmware on that model.) That empty folder helps me remember exactly what firmware is on the drive, eliminating over-cautiousness in deleting and reinstalling the same files because I wasn't sure.
    Technically the empty folder can be named anything and it shouldn't affect the firmware download to the machine. Sometimes I'll rename the empty folder "G00-K6" or something similar, for ease of recognition.
    Works for me. Might not work for you. Don't really know. Other sentence fragments. It's Friday.
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