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    DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    The video tells the whole story. I could have told you that a pad of any sort would make it worse. You might try a weak magnet (like a refrigerator magnet). The flag will cling to the pickup shaft, damping the bounce. =^..^=
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    DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02


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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    Doesn't the Bizhub 200 series have a detect flag-spring you could order of steal off a parts machine?

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    A spring won't fit. I also noticed the flag is high enough due to the warped cover, that it lets a piece (or several) get underneath of it. Pressing down lets the flag hit at the bend and not bounce. The bounce causes it to detect no paper, or not detect the last sheet. I'm placing about 40 lbs on top of all DF621's in the shop all weekend to see if they will flatten out. Then I will swap any feeders in the field that have 66-02 codes and good tires, and especially any where the customer notices "that sound" after the last page has exited and it tries to feed nothing.
    If weight alone won't un-warp them, I'll treat them to some heat & weight. The darn left cover ass'y A143PP9N02 is about $200 cost, and you get to re-mount all sensors plus about 20 other parts and re-thread the harness....

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    The video tells the whole story. I could have told you that a pad of any sort would make it worse. You might try a weak magnet (like a refrigerator magnet). The flag will cling to the pickup shaft, damping the bounce. =^..^=
    Your suggestions continue to impress me, but see comment below.

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    Placing about 20-30 lbs weight on top of the DF621 left cover (lid) for a week has reduced the warp on each cover in our shop from 24~26 mm to 23~24 mm measured from the center of the doc tray to the bottom edge of the lid. Several days later they have not warped back up more than .5 mm. So I'll swap units in the field and see how long that lasts. Any more than 24 mm may cause some switch bounce and feeding of a final original that does not exist.

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    That sounds like success, at least in the short term. Please keep us posted how it progresses. =^..^=
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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    I think this to be a model feeder that has a modified paper present actuator available that can accept a magnet to prevent this from occurring.

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigW View Post
    I think this to be a model feeder that has a modified paper present actuator available that can accept a magnet to prevent this from occurring.
    CraigW: I haven't seen a part # or any mention of that. Again, if it's warped up high enough, paper can get under the flag and cause other issues. Best to get the lid flattened back down to less than 25mm. Most working units in the field are about 23~24 mm. See pic of measurement.


    DF621 lid height.jpg

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    ^^^

    Actuator = A3CFPP4VOO

    Magnet = A3CFPP1700

    The 621 IIRC does NOT have these from factory though.

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    Re: DF621 on Bizhub 223, 283, 363, 423 jam code 66-02

    Quote Originally Posted by CraigW View Post
    ^^^

    Actuator = A3CFPP4VOO

    Magnet = A3CFPP1700

    The 621 IIRC does NOT have these from factory though.
    CraigW - My Nov. 2014 parts manual does not have this part listed. Is this definitely a DF621 part? Not sure what IIRC means.
    THANKS!

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