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    Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Hi all,

    Looking for some assistance, I had a c8000 machine with Konica's ic-601 RIP, however, it was a source of frustration and we managed to get hold of a redundant ic-306. I reinstalled everything from the Fiery system software CD (new HDD in the RIP) but when trying to run prints directly from the RIP/CW5 it said there was a signed driver issue (can't remember the exact message).

    However, everything loaded fine otherwise but when the job gets sent to RIP it will just drop back down from the processing tab. Going to 'properties', it says "Product is not enabled".
    On checking CW5 Device centre, the graphic shows installed units that are not currently present (I'm guessing from the RIP's previous configuration).

    At some point in the install it said to check the 'installable options' tab in the printer's driver - in this section, the graphic shows the correct units installed but the options window still shows incorrect units (unfortunately the add/remove buttons are greyed out). There's a '2 way communication' update button but this fails to connect - I should point out I tested that function on another (working) c8000 with ic-306 and it also failed on that, so I'm not sure that's the solution.

    Can anyone suggest anything to update/clear the legacy? I've a number of Fiery system software CDs but I'm guessing they're universal?
    Likewise, I'm guessing the legacy isn't in the dongles, as I've swapped finishing units on machines previously with no legacy problems.
    I should note it prints the colour calibration chart from CW5, so it seems like a driver issue.

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Hi,
    This is testing the memory a bit but I seem to recall there being an upgrade kit for the IC-306 to allow compatibility with the C8000.
    It is an upgrade dongle.
    IC-306 have had a number of updates. Below is just from memory but I believe it is correct.
    V1.0 Win XP for C6/7000
    V1.1 Win XP for C8000 (after upgrade kit applied)
    V2.0 Win XP 64 bit (paid upgrade)
    V3.0 Win 7 64 bit (paid upgrade)

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Thanks Mick, I'd tried re-installing with the v1 system disc and dongle from another c8000 but still had the same issue. I even tried the Fiery options disc and it said the install was enabled
    I've also got a v1.5 system disc but had an issue with that too (think the 'user software' discs I had were incompatible).

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Hi,
    Unfortunately that dongle will not work. They are designed to be single use only. Once the update is done using the dongle it is useless.
    This was a stupid idea from EFI when this was implemented (a way for them to make more money).

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Can anyone think of any solutions? I was sent a fresh/sealed dongle but either it didn't work or I installed it with the wrong disc set (and now it's maybe done if it's 'single use')? Got a very expensive dead RIP here

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Problem
    Unable to install the Fiery® Graphics Arts package (premium) on the IC-306.

    Solution
    CAUSE: Incorrect disk being used for install.

    SOLUTION: Do not use the disk labeled Fiery® Options Utility ver1.11 that comes with the Graphics Arts Package and the dongle.

    • Use the disk that comes with the IC-306 labeled: Fiery® Options Utility v1.5 labeled Part Number: 45092013
    • Follow the instructions provided in the package containing the dongle except use the version 1.0 feature update software disk.
    • If the version 1.0 disk is not available with all of the installation and setup disks that come with the IC-306 it can be download from the Konica Minolta Download Selector. Look under the IC-306, Utilities tab. It will be listed as Fiery Options Util v1 5.iso
    • Newer IC-306 hardware will use the Fiery® Options Utility ver1.5 disk that came with the controller.



      Question
      How to swap an IC-306 between bizhub PRESS C6000/C7000 and bizhub PRESS C8000 MFPs.


      Answer
      In some environments where only one IC-306 is available to be connected to a bizhub PRESS C6000/C7000 series and a bizhub PRESS C8000 MFP (such as in a demo room or training environment), it is possible to use one controller to swap between both engine types.

      It is required that the IC-306 has an installed bizhub PRESS C8000 Enabler Kit (UK-102, Item #A37YWY1 - USB Upgrade Dongle). The controller and engine will need to be OFF before connecting, and a period of at least 15 minutes is required for the controller to configure itself to the new engine. Do not turn the controller off during this period or a system code reinstallation may be required.

      Please follow these recommendations from EFI.
      "The v1.x and v2.0 IC?306 was designed so that it can be used on a C6000/C7000, then, after power down, be moved over to a C8000 (or vice?versa). This can be done without reinstalling system software. This ability comes in handy for dealerships who have a single IC?306, but more than one supported engine type. An IC?306 at a customer site would never be used in this way.

      "It is important to note that once Fiery is attached to a different engine type than what it was originally attached to, it must be given sufficient time to auto configure itself to the “new” engine. Once powered up with new engine do not use Fiery or interrupt it for 15 minutes. Then it will be ready to use. During the 15 minute auto configure period you may notice it will stop Fiery services (Exit in Fiery Bar) and then will reboot on its own.

      "It has been reported to EFI that occasionally the Fiery will not properly configure to new engine. Operator will see that Fiery will never come to ready state even though the full 15 minutes was allowed for. Reboots of Fiery do not help. Even if IC?306 is moved back to “original” engine, it won’t come to normal idle state. The only solution then is to reload Fiery system software and install appropriate applications and patches. This process can take 2?3 hours."

      EFI™ is currently working to find a cause for this issue.

      If you want to swap the Fiery® between engine types, EFI™ strongly recommends use of the Fiery® Clone Tool to back up the Fiery® in case issue noted above does occur. By taking this precaution, the Fiery® can be up and running in under an hour.



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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Sounds like it might be a winner synthohol, I'll let you know!

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    *fingers crossed*
    the attachment has more info about dongle usage, didnt know if you had a copy.

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    Not had much luck so far Synthohol

    I went through the dongles I had with the Fiery Options v1.5 boot disc - most said they had "no uses left" but one still had 1 available use left.

    However, it said the FACI was already enabled and not to re-enable. I would have tried to re-enable anyway but unfortunately the enable button is grayed-out/unselectable. The PDF you attached had menus etc accessible in the options disc but I don't appear to have them (they're likely only available when 'enable' is an option?).

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    Re: Anyone swapped over a RIP? Got ic-306 issues!

    sorry to hear man, at least going forward you can clone the rip so you wont have to go through anything like this again.

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