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    Post Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Hi,

    it is from several days that we find problems in programming the scan using the SMB protocol due to the latest updates of Windows 10, therefore having to change the sending protocol in FTP. Has anyone managed to solve this problem with SMB?

    Thank you.

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    What model machine are you scanning from? It might be to old to scan to a modern OS.

    Windows 10 has been disabling SMB V1 with updates. Some machines cannot use SMB V2/V3. Firmware updates on the Konicaminolta will sometimes fix this issue. You can also go into Administrator mode, Network settings, SMB Client settings. Enable NTLM V1/V2.

    In th folder properties on the sharing make sure the account being used for authentication has permissions for this folder. Have seen instances where that even though sharing was allowed for the folder if the permissions were not correct in the properties of that folder scanning did not work.

    Last thing to try is Control panel, Programs features, left panel Turn Windows Features On and Off, and turn SMB V1 back on. Keep in mind that Microsoft is turning this off because of a security risk and by enabling you could be exposing the computer to problems. Personally I feel if the problem gets past the company firewall there are bigger problems then enabling SMB V1. Never the less use caution.

    There are some Windows 10 computers that no matter what we did SMB would not work.

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by mincopier View Post
    What model machine are you scanning from? It might be to old to scan to a modern OS.

    Windows 10 has been disabling SMB V1 with updates. Some machines cannot use SMB V2/V3. Firmware updates on the Konicaminolta will sometimes fix this issue. You can also go into Administrator mode, Network settings, SMB Client settings. Enable NTLM V1/V2.

    In th folder properties on the sharing make sure the account being used for authentication has permissions for this folder. Have seen instances where that even though sharing was allowed for the folder if the permissions were not correct in the properties of that folder scanning did not work.

    Last thing to try is Control panel, Programs features, left panel Turn Windows Features On and Off, and turn SMB V1 back on. Keep in mind that Microsoft is turning this off because of a security risk and by enabling you could be exposing the computer to problems. Personally I feel if the problem gets past the company firewall there are bigger problems then enabling SMB V1. Never the less use caution.

    There are some Windows 10 computers that no matter what we did SMB would not work.
    BEFORE you go turning SMB 1 back on .. I would get with the customers IT ( or manager if no it ) and tell them of the RISK to their network if you turn it back on.

    Search CTN there are other work arounds for this issue.

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    Post Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Enabling SMB 1 has returned to work (restarting the PC). I will present it to IT!

    Thanks for the support.

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by DiVallelunga_Makhymo View Post
    Enabling SMB 1 has returned to work (restarting the PC). I will present it to IT!

    Thanks for the support.
    now you have enabled a RansomWare or Virus to be able to get into their network.

    Hope your boss has DEEP Pockets!

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    now you have enabled a RansomWare or Virus to be able to get into their network.
    That's not true... most RansomWare/viruses need "retarded" users interaction to get into the local network - like opening any "invoice" e-mail attachment.
    In normal cases your local network is behind NAT/firewall, so there is no way to use SMB as an attack vector from Internet.
    In some cases SMBv1 can help to spread RansomWare inside your local network - but attack is usually limited to shared folders. SMB is not the main problem, the problem is with sharing whole drive without password at all, with write access to everyone.

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Since turning SMBV1 fixed the immediate problem, not is the time to fix the next issue. As I said before this opens the computer to a security risk and needs to be used with caution. Upgrade the firmware of the machine so that it is capable of SMBV2/V3.

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by jotunn View Post
    That's not true... most RansomWare/viruses need "retarded" users interaction to get into the local network - like opening any "invoice" e-mail attachment.
    In normal cases your local network is behind NAT/firewall, so there is no way to use SMB as an attack vector from Internet.
    In some cases SMBv1 can help to spread RansomWare inside your local network - but attack is usually limited to shared folders. SMB is not the main problem, the problem is with sharing whole drive without password at all, with write access to everyone.
    no you are incorrect.

    search CTN for that issue and in INDUSTRY NEWS there were SEVERAL reports from national printer security people giving the 411 on the poop.

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by mincopier View Post
    Since turning SMBV1 fixed the immediate problem, not is the time to fix the next issue. As I said before this opens the computer to a security risk and needs to be used with caution. Upgrade the firmware of the machine so that it is capable of SMBV2/V3.
    some of the older machines cannot use anything but SMB1

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    Re: Scan error with smb protocol on Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    some of the older machines cannot use anything but SMB1
    I realize that older machines may not be able to use SMBV1. But the Original Poster never mentioned the model of the machine so that we would know whether the machine can or cannot be upgraded to use SMBV2/V3.

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