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Old 10-19-2008   #11 (permalink)
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I wonder if this special firmware can be installed with version 41?
I have a few machines with the finishers that version 41 helps.
I'm tempted to roll back to 40 and install the patch.
The machines aren't going down because of the finisher exit.
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Hi all, Just wondering about that special firmware for the blade flipping I have looked on infohun europe and cant seem to find it just wondering if some might be able to send it to me if they have it.
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Exclamation C 6500 Status Quo !

Hello Guy's

The problem (flipping blade) is growing up without any solution or workaround at this moment. the latest version for C6500 V.41 but the adjustement to avoid this problem doesn't work.
I tested several thing but nothing works well.

IF you have more information please tell me!

I do ti if I've it.

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Blade flip

Blade flip may be addressed by;

1. Cut corners of the blade at a 45 degree angle
2. Apply carwax (spray on) to the drum surface, buff. This has worked for several dealers.
3. Use alot of setting powder and work the blade back and forth on it.
4. Use C500 blade pressure springs (reduced pressure).

KMBS is working with a new type of drum, they are not available as yet.
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We got an email today from our KM rep. This is what it said

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In regards to the C6500 blade flipping issue, the following is the latest update. On all machines experiencing this issue please make sure you have a SSD ticket open for each machine and update the ticket with the results of the following solution. This feedback is critical to ensure all available information will be provided to those addressing this issue.Thank you for your patience and in advance for your feedback.

Please have the technicians install this firmware and report the results via the Hotline. This firmware will create toner bands in-between the pages during the copy run to help lubricate the blade. Please set DipSW 13-2=0 and DipSW 13-3=1.

Please note that this is a temporary workaround and they are still trying to determine the root cause of the problem.
ill give you ROOT CAUSE lowest bidder manufacturing ,never had these problems when manufactured in japan or europe.
A solution has been created.

I looked and there is a special firmware that was released today. You can find it on KM website. I have attached the release notes
ill give you ROOT CAUSE lowest bidder manufacturing ,never had these problems when manufactured in japan or europe.
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ill give you ROOT CAUSE lowest bidder manufacturing ,never had these problems when manufactured in japan or europe.

I hearrrrd that



I have had postive results with stretching the springs. Pull them slowly and as soon as you can feel them stretch past their elastic limit, release them again. The should be about 0.5 - 1.0 mm longer. NOT MORE, they won't clean the drum effectively.

A local colleague applies setting powder twice over on new drums, and his blades don't flip even though he doesn't stretch the springs.


I like the idea about trimming the blade corners off, since the blades I have seen tend to flip only in one side, suggesting that it is the corner that starts the flip.
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We,ve been buying 8050 blades and inserting them into the 6500 drum units. 3 machines giving this trouble. Not a peep out any of them for 4 weeks now!!!!
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Blade Flipping Problem

I have now tried everything suggested on this thread and am still having the blade flip problem. Fitted a special firmware patch from KM to try and cure this problem, but nothing works.

Customer has 8 machines and have now given us two months to resolve the problem permantly or they will terminate the contract.

I have been told that KM do not know themselves the underlying cause of this problem.

Has anyone else here been told otherwise, is there an end to this problem in sight?
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I have now tried everything suggested on this thread and am still having the blade flip problem. Fitted a special firmware patch from KM to try and cure this problem, but nothing works.

Customer has 8 machines and have now given us two months to resolve the problem permantly or they will terminate the contract.

I have been told that KM do not know themselves the underlying cause of this problem.

Has anyone else here been told otherwise, is there an end to this problem in sight?
Remove the blade (take white holders off each end), clip the corners off the blade, put blade back in use alot of setting powder. I have had 100% succses with this method.
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Remove the blade (take white holders off each end), clip the corners off the blade, put blade back in use alot of setting powder. I have had 100% succses with this method.
Already tried this but without any success.
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