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    Problem Banner Printing On C550 And C451


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    Re: Problem Banner Printing On C550 And C451

    Quote Originally Posted by emujo View Post
    Softswitch 25. If you look at MENU/UTLILTY/ there should be a device information choice. This shows your management version. I believe the C650 series is at ver 3. Emujo
    Emujo, thanks for replying again.
    What are the bit or hex assignments? I just checked two machines and the defaults for switch 25 are all zeroes.

    I managed to locate several identical bulletins for the
    c452/552/662/220/223/280/360/363/423 and maybe a few others I missed.

    Solution ID 3 Solution Usage TAUS1002001EN*Description
    "Failure: Get Open API version" error when trying to import anything from the selected device.
    Solution
    CAUSE: The current management version, version 3, has not been selected.

    SOLUTION:Change the management version to version 3 by performing the following:
    Firmware upgrading procedure from 1st Version to 2nd Version "Function Version3"
    1. Install the Firmware of 2nd Version to MFP. For details, please refer to the Service Manual.
    2. If 1st version movie data has been already installed, delete it in Service Mode.
    3. Install 2nd version movie data to MFP.
    4. Change Software Switch Setting to the following in Service Mode.
    Switch No.: 25
    HEX Assignment: 20
    5. Turn OFF/ON the main switch.
    I went ahead and changed switch 25 to hex20 just for the hell of it resulting in no change (as far as I can tell).

    As for management version, when I print the config page there is nothing listed for "Management Version" like in the sample from the bulletin. I think these models predate this "management version" and movie data..

    8.7 Banner Printing (bizhub C451 only) [with FS-519]
    • It will not be displayed when the optional finisher FS-517/608 is mounted.
    • It will not be displayed when the following setting shows that vendor is mounted.
    [Service Mode] → [Billing Setting] → [Management Function Choice]
    This option is available in Utility Mode option 6 (options are allow/restrict) which never shows on a c650.

    I just wasted another 30min reading the manuals/active solutions that all say in one way or another that it is not supported for the c550/650, but is on the c451 only with the FS-519. Then I read somewhat conflicting info on a supplemental document for the ICC-409

    Banner Printing is supported by both types of finishers: FS-519 and
    FS-609. Please note that to successfully execute this function with the
    FS-609, pull the finisher away from the MFP before you start printing.
    It is also possible to perform banner printing when NO finisher is attached
    OR if the JS-505 is installed on the C353 and C253.
    I love these two out of the active solutions for the c650:
    Solution ID 2 Solution Usage TAUS0702343EN*
    Description
    IsBanner printing supported?
    Solution
    Banner printing is not supported.
    Solution ID Solution Usage TAUS0703817EN*
    Description
    Why Banner printing defaults the driver to Thick 3 and the setting is greyed out.
    Solution
    This is normal operation for both the driver and the printer. The machine will slow down when printing onto banner paper sizes.

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    Problem Banner Printing On C550 And C451


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    Re: Problem Banner Printing On C550 And C451

    Also, regarding switch 25, maybe I am missing something, but is there a chart, list, document, or something for the switches for these models?

    One thing I like about some other models is that the switches are clearly listed in the service manuals...

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