Tech forums for copier repair  

Go Back   Copytechnet.com > Technical Forums > Copier Technical Discussion > Konica Minolta

Bizhub 600 Scan to E-mail

Konica Minolta

Reply

 

LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-17-2008   1 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
Clabus
Guest
 
Tournaments Won: 12

Posts: n/a
Bizhub 600 Scan to E-mail

I`ve got a Bizhub 600 that is giving me a "Server Connect error" when trying to scan to E-mail. My Firmware version is on ver.31 thus up to date.
The MC is printing fine. I`ve got serveral other B350 and B250 machines on the same network with the exact same SMTP address and mail configuration and they are working fine. HELP !!!
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 04-01-2008   #2 (permalink)
Trusted Tech
50+ Posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 68
Rep Power: 6DallasTech is on a distinguished road
Make sure your DNS servers are set correctly. If possible try eliminating the DNS servers, by just hitting the IP of the SMTP server.
DallasTech is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008   #3 (permalink)
Vacuum Cleaning Expert
500+ Posts
 
iMind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008

european union
Location: File not found
Posts: 820
Rep Power: 12iMind is building a good name for himself
Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasTech
View Post
Make sure your DNS servers are set correctly. If possible try eliminating the DNS servers, by just hitting the IP of the SMTP server.
yes, I think that too, taking to much time to resolve names, try inputing server IP address. ricoh sometimes does the same, dependes on the network.
__________________________
We can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound
iMind is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008   #4 (permalink)
Trusted Tech
50+ Posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 68
Rep Power: 6DallasTech is on a distinguished road
I have seen a server connect error caused by authentication issues as well. It's not a very descriptive error.
DallasTech is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008   #5 (permalink)
Vacuum Cleaning Expert
500+ Posts
 
iMind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008

european union
Location: File not found
Posts: 820
Rep Power: 12iMind is building a good name for himself
Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasTech
View Post
I have seen a server connect error caused by authentication issues as well. It's not a very descriptive error.
he asked for help two weeks ago, certainly his solved his problem.....LOL
__________________________
We can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound
iMind is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008   #6 (permalink)
Trusted Tech
50+ Posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 68
Rep Power: 6DallasTech is on a distinguished road
The next person might not have to ask the question and just use the search function.
DallasTech is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2008   #7 (permalink)
Field Supervisor
500+ Posts
 
Scott_Lewis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007

United States us montana
Location: Great Falls, Montana
Posts: 514
Rep Power: 11Scott_Lewis is building a good name for himself
Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasTech
View Post
I have seen a server connect error caused by authentication issues as well. It's not a very descriptive error.
We are setting up a bunch of copiers to use a common access card authenticate onto the network for scanning. This is a new device that Ricoh is just deploying and is not quite ready for prime time, thus the reason the Ricoh tech was in town.

I mentioned to him that some of the error messages displayed and possibly recorded by the copiers are not very descriptive. He said that was by design. In our discussion it became clear to me why the dang messages are so unhelpful at times.

The bottom line is this is for security purposes. If you make the error too descriptive, then unauthorized users can (for example) too easily figure out what part of a user name/ password combination is incorrect and thus narrow down his focus in his quest to crack a username password combo into a network.
Scott_Lewis is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2008   #8 (permalink)
Trusted Tech
50+ Posts
 
Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 68
Rep Power: 6DallasTech is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott_Lewis
View Post
We are setting up a bunch of copiers to use a common access card authenticate onto the network for scanning. This is a new device that Ricoh is just deploying and is not quite ready for prime time, thus the reason the Ricoh tech was in town.

I mentioned to him that some of the error messages displayed and possibly recorded by the copiers are not very descriptive. He said that was by design. In our discussion it became clear to me why the dang messages are so unhelpful at times.

The bottom line is this is for security purposes. If you make the error too descriptive, then unauthorized users can (for example) too easily figure out what part of a user name/ password combination is incorrect and thus narrow down his focus in his quest to crack a username password combo into a network.
I don't really agree with that too much, but I have a reason. First, if I was to try to gain unauthorized access to a network, I wouldn't use a copier. Second, passwords on these machines are always encrypted on these machines, so they couldn't get the password if they wanted. The username is going to be easy to find other ways. Third, if a user has access to a copier and they wanted to gain access to the network, they probably have the same access to a computer. A computer will give you a more detailed error and would be a "hacker's" preferred tool anyways.

When it comes down to it, the only way for an unauthorized user to gain access is to crack the password. If there is a way to extract the passwords off a bizhub 600, I need to know that trick.

The server connect error is almost like a customer saying "it don't work". You could have a few problems: DNS servers, smtp server name/address error, username problem, password problem, no smtp authentication, SSL encryption, incorrect sending protocol, firewall blocking ports, internet provider blocking ports, among a few others.

It would help greatly if they could provide a little more information about the actual "server connect error", like where it failed to connect.

Am I wrong?
DallasTech is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2008   #9 (permalink)
Vacuum Cleaning Expert
500+ Posts
 
iMind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008

european union
Location: File not found
Posts: 820
Rep Power: 12iMind is building a good name for himself
Quote:
Originally Posted by DallasTech
View Post
I don't really agree with that too much, but I have a reason. First, if I was to try to gain unauthorized access to a network, I wouldn't use a copier. Second, passwords on these machines are always encrypted on these machines, so they couldn't get the password if they wanted. The username is going to be easy to find other ways. Third, if a user has access to a copier and they wanted to gain access to the network, they probably have the same access to a computer. A computer will give you a more detailed error and would be a "hacker's" preferred tool anyways.

When it comes down to it, the only way for an unauthorized user to gain access is to crack the password. If there is a way to extract the passwords off a bizhub 600, I need to know that trick.

The server connect error is almost like a customer saying "it don't work". You could have a few problems: DNS servers, smtp server name/address error, username problem, password problem, no smtp authentication, SSL encryption, incorrect sending protocol, firewall blocking ports, internet provider blocking ports, among a few others.

It would help greatly if they could provide a little more information about the actual "server connect error", like where it failed to connect.

Am I wrong?
I completely agree with you, so many things could have failed.
__________________________
We can all Win, but at the end we all loose. Save the greyhound
iMind is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2008   #10 (permalink)
Technician
 
Join Date: Apr 2008

Canada
Posts: 30
Rep Power: 4NotByChoice is on a distinguished road
There have been instances where copiers have been hacked. Just google "printer hacking"

But the reason that the error messages are vague is so that the customer will have to call a tech. They say this is so that the user doesn't try to fix it themselves it damage the device more but I think it's so that they make more money.
NotByChoice is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
600, bizhub, email, scan

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)

LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/konica-minolta/8501-bizhub-600-scan-e-mail.html

Posted By For Type Date
Bizhub 600 Scan to E-mail This thread Refback 05-27-2008 05:52 PM

Google

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:22 PM.


Your Link Here
Toner Chip Resetter
Your Link Here

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger