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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFPTech View Post
    Stay away as far as possible from this model or any Konica low-end monochrome model for that matter.
    If you enjoy the challenge then have fun with toner / developer sensor issues, fuser thermistors error issues, firmware and long file name issues, etc. Overall, an excellent unit to keep service techs employed!
    Also disagree.

    B423 series is brilliant, I have a lot in my area and other than pm calls to change drums etc I never see them.

    All of mine either have no finisher or FS-527.

    A machine I would not hesitate to recommend and have recommended to friends without regrets

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    Sorry, bizhub 360 is what I had in mind....

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    Great info guys, thanks,

    MFPTech, you scared me...... LOL

    I never got the 360 nor 362 cause I didn't like them. They 360 was too Konica-ish for my taste if you got what I mean and the 362 I never liked for the missing color scan option. That's why I preferred to continue as long as possible with the BH-350 and even the Di-450. The 363/423 seems to me a very good range and I like that the image unit as well as the fuser unit is the same for the whole series.

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    BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    The BH423 series are great machines except, as stated earlier, the fusers rarely last full life. They are plagued with the same issue as the previous two series, a ring wearing into the upper roller from the thermistor. We went back to OEM toner and have noticed a little longer life, but still not full

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    The feed units come out THE FRONT...saints be praised.

    But yes, the thermostats primary function is still to scratch the UFR

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    BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    Quote Originally Posted by JR2ALTA View Post
    The feed units come out THE FRONT...saints be praised.

    But yes, the thermostats primary function is still to scratch the UFR
    Speaking of ... has anyone tried using the Chinese aftermarket heat rollers? I've always thought that I could get another 250K from the fusers if the aftermarket rollers were any good. By the way, the bizhub 500 heat roller claws seem to fit. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    I have not but I wouldn't discourage anyone from demanding just warranty returns for this incompetant crap

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    I use Katun (I dislike that company for their ignorant after sales support but, anyway....) after market rollers intended for the Di-3510 and they function just as "well" as the original OEM on the BH-350 and later series. Much cheaper than throwing the whole fuser unit into the bin otherwise.

    Takes about twenty minutes for a trained technician to replace that UFR. Take care not to loose the carbon tip of the sliding ground terminal which rides at the front of the UFR. Before starting make a picture of the routing of the wires at the front of the unit to get them back in the proper place again later on.

    I push with a wooden match (soft wooden stick as not to damage the orange foil. Toothpicks are not soft enough) the little bulb of the thermistor sensor - which sits in the middle of the "cushion" of the thermistor assembly - as much as possible back, so it will not protrude too much casing those rings or scars.

    On the BH-350 series I have been able to replace at least 3 times the UFR before the plastic of the fusing unit disintegrates.

    BTW: Densi might have a good after market roller too I've heard.

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    BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

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    Re: BH-423/363, Good, Bad, or just not so Ugly...?

    I work on a lot of these.

    Belly finishers suck.

    Rebuild the fusers with knockoff UFR. If you can get away with raising the temp +5*C when they're young they last longer.

    Drums last much longer than life but replace them before they wear through and arc and you can often get 2:1 drum to developer life.

    Beware J99-01 on the 423 only. I often write-off 9901s as user BS when I only see them in the management list and never hear about them. On the 423 though there is an additional sensor to accommodate the extra speed and this can cause 99-01s as well.

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