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    Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Hi there,

    I bought a second hand Taskalfa 250ci for private usage and am facing a strange problem: When I use the automatic feeder to make a color copy, every copy has a light grey background. As you can see from the attached image there is a grey background printed on the white page when I copied a completely blank white page.

    What I don't understand is that this does not happen, when I color copy a page NOT USING the automatic feeder. I does not happen either when printing a colored document. It really only happens when using the automatic feeder for a color copy.

    I have already tried to adapt the grey scale (sorry, English is not my mother tongue and I do not know the exact translations) and cleaned the glass, but no luck.

    Do you have any idea how this could be solved?

    Thank you!
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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Adjust the DP shading position through maintenance mode U068 (10871087 to enter maintenance mode, then enter 68 and press the green print button). The default setting is 0, try changing it to 10 + or - and see which one gets better, then you may have to go more or less. Exit maintenance mode by entering 001 then start, or turning the machine off and back on.

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Thank you for your answer. I tried it but could not really resolve it. Adapt -10 did not change anything. Adapt +10 made it a bit better - at least the horizontal grey lines - (see this image of a color copy of a blank page http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/8tkv3Gthip.jpg) in general, however, a new dark grey line in the lower right corner appeared. So I tried +20 and it made it worse again, also the grey line.

    Any other ideas? These grey lines do not appear when I use the automatic feeder to scan a color page to FTP for example. It really only appears when copying a color page. I am really helpless and I really need the color copy function.

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    If +10 made it better, try +5 or +15 and see if either of those are better than the +10 setting. Also make sure that the small scan glass to the left of the platen glass is clean. Also make certain that the document processor is closing correctly and the white pressure plate is moving freely and contacting that slit glass correctly. The optics are the same for DP scan and scan from glass. The only difference is that on one, the original moves and the other the scanner moves, but the optics and image path to the CCD are identical.

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Thank you again very much for your kind assistance!

    I tried +5 and +15 but neither of both made it significantly better than +10. The horizontal grey lines remain. The small glass on the left is clean, I cleaned it to be sure. This is a picture of it: http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/wWwxqXSlNT.jpg

    The document processor is closing completely, the white pressure plate is also moving freely and also contacting the slit glass correctly as far as I can tell.

    But I really do not understand how this is even possible: If there was a mechanical problem, shouldn't I have the same horizontal lines when copying black and white using the automatic feeder? Because when I do not color copy, but b/w I get a clear blank page without those lines. And also when I color scan using the automatic feeder, the resulting pdf or jpg file do not have those lines.

    Edit: One more thing I found out: When I set the brightness to -1 (making it brighter) when color copying, the horizontal lines disappear, but reappear when setting brightness back to 0 or +1.
    Last edited by HaroldMenza; 04-26-2015 at 01:59 PM.

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    The thing I haven't noticed in the previous posts is, have you cleaned the white level reference? Does your machine have the black mylar on the slit glass?

    First, you might try moving the black mylar left ~1mm.

    The adjustment that you have been doing shifts the position in which the scanner reads the white level reference values. What would be even better would be to have a clean white level reference, rather then randomly searching for a cleaner section. The white plate for the CCD is the painted white metal guide over the slit glass. You want it to be white, so don't use any chemical that will remove the white paint, just remove the dirt. Then try your U068 again at default values.

    If you're still having the problem, you may want to calibrate the CCD with specific test patterns listed in the service manual. Yes, I know the test patterns are expensive, but that's how it's done. Read the manual and follow the procedure. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Thank you very much!
    Just to make sure that there are no language problems: What do you mean by "white level reference"?

    Well, there is a black plastic "mylar" (had to look it up in my dictionnary) on the tiny glass to the left. But it was like that when I got it from the second hand dealer.
    However, it is glued to the glass. How can I move it? When I try to lift it there are rests of sticky tape or some kind of glue left on the glass (I just tried to lift one corner).

    I would even buy a new slit glass, if necessary and if there is one to purchase.

    Thank you all for your patience with me!

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Yes, the black mylar is stuck on with two-sided tape. It may not come off neatly. You may need to buy a replacement mylar, and clean off the remaining adhesive from the old mylar. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Any ideas where I can buy spare parts for the 250ci?

    Can you take a picture of the "white reference level" that needs to be clean? The white plastic that is on the lid and placed on the slit glass when copying is already white.

    Sorry, and again my question I cannot really understand: Why do the lines only appear when I color copy it and NOT when I copy it in black and white. If there was dirt or something on the slit glass, shouldn't the problem also be present when copying b/w?

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    Re: Taskalfa 250ci light grey background when color copying

    Take your pick:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=303L...utf-8&oe=utf-8

    part #: 303LL02500

    You might take the time to fill out your biography information. Then I'd know what country you originate from.
    =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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