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    Greetings Everyone..

    Hey There, just found this forum recently and I'm not only a newbie in this forum, I'm also a newbie in printing.

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    welcome to the circus

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    This is a great place to learn. Welcome. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    I am having a tough time choosing between two machines to print my stuff.

    First of all, I would like to ask is this the right place to ask such question or should I post somewhere else ??
    e-Studio 45
    Both of the machines I'm available to get is CANON DIGITAL IMAGERUNNER COPIER IR 4570 and Toshiba e-Studio 455 Multifuntional Printer System.

    Edited * The Toshiba machine is brand new but the rental price is a bit expensive compare to the Canon because 4570 is a re-conditioned machine. Which machine would all of you here choose if it is only used to print out B&W pages ?

    Another question is, is there any copier machine more appropriate to use to print only B&@ pages ?
    Last edited by Rfts; 08-19-2010 at 02:45 PM.

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    The 4570 is a good machine, except for some jamming issues, make sure that it has been updated with parts and software. The e-studio, I don't know much of, as I'm a canon tech.

    By the way, welcome.
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    I mixed up the re-conditioned and the brand new part.

    CANON DIGITAL IMAGERUNNER COPIER IR 4570 is re-conditioned and Toshiba e-Studio 455 Multifuntional Printer System is a brand new one.

    I'm planning to make around 500k prints per month with either two 4570 or two 455.

    So the question is will the jamming issue cause me a major problem since the 4570 is re-conditioned machine ?

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    Could that be correct? 500K per month?

    You'll kill those machines at that volume.
    The Canon is rated at a Maximum monthly volume of 170K. A more reasonable average is 1/2 that.
    The Toshiba is rated at a Maximum monthly volume of 150K. Again a more reasonable average is 1/2 that.

    Are you considering buying five or six of these machines? =^..^=
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    Thanks BlackCat for the information provided, I don't really have any experience on copier machine and I come out with that figure from the information the salesman gave me.
    Can I know where can I get more information on how people rate copier machines ?

    I came out with the calculation by this way, canon 4570 PPM is 45 , so 45 x 60 minutes x 10 hours per day x 20 days per month = 540,000 pages per month. I expect a 50% downtime of each machine, so I thought that 2 machines will be sufficient to do 500k prints per month.

    Additional information * I intend to print out only A3 papers

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm really willing to learn.

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    Consider a higher mid copier if 500K is your monthly volume.
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    At the minimum I would go with a Canon IR-5070, but if you can support 208V find a cheap IR-7200 or IR-8070. Unit is a workhorse and will last you a long time. Monthly volume is around 200K with a max of 350K. You could go faster with the 8500, 105, 9070 or 105+ but you would probably pay more for them
    Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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