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    Service Manager 1,000+ Posts theengel's Avatar
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    How to describe alternatives to customers

    So you have a machine that might need one of three different boards. You can't return anything you put on the machine. Each tech has their preference for trying the cheapest first or the most likely first... but how do you put it to the customer?

    I've tried several approaches:

    "Your machine needs X. It migyht also need Y & Z."

    "Your machine needs X, Y, or Z. Y is cheapest, X is more likely. But you can't return any of them after trying them. It's up to you, whether you want to sink money into this machine or look at buying a new one."

    "Your machine needs X, Y, & Z."

    How do you guys do it?

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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    99% of our customers are under maintenance so we just order and bring all 3 boards..Return what's not needed. Emujo
    If you don't see your question answered in the forum, please don't think it's OK to PM me for a personal reply...I do not give out firmware and/or manuals.

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    Service Manager 1,000+ Posts theengel's Avatar
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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    I guess this is more a problem for us indies.

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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    I like this choice:

    "Your machine needs X, Y, or Z. Y is cheapest, X is more likely. But you can't return any of them after trying them. It's up to you, whether you want to sink money into this machine or look at buying a new one."

    But I tend to give the endusers too much information, confounding their ability to make a decision. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    I try to give the customer all the information about the problem at hand.
    I some times say "you may like to sit down while I fill in the details of the expense."
    All these parts are now made out of eco-friendly bio-degradable plastic and you have
    5 years estimated life span. I wish I could say it was more...

    And my most well used line while the customer jumps up and down about the faulty equipment or the price...

    "I'm sorry, but I don't make this XYZ machine, I just make excuses for them."
    Inauguration to the "AI cancel-culture" fraternity 1997...
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    Not a service manager 2,500+ Posts Iowatech's Avatar
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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    I like this choice:

    "Your machine needs X, Y, or Z. Y is cheapest, X is more likely. But you can't return any of them after trying them. It's up to you, whether you want to sink money into this machine or look at buying a new one."

    But I tend to give the endusers too much information, confounding their ability to make a decision. =^..^=
    Sometimes when I'm talking to customers about technical issues it is hard to tell the difference between when they are paying rapt attention and when they are giving the blank stare of incomprehension. I've found that it is useful to know the difference though. Although sometimes I'm not that good at it yet.

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    Service Manager 1,000+ Posts theengel's Avatar
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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post

    But I tend to give the endusers too much information, confounding their ability to make a decision. =^..^=
    It's actually part of the tactic. By the end of it, they just don't give a damn, and they say, "Just do what needs to be done!"

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    Re: How to describe alternatives to customers

    Always remember, if you get the wrong part, you can take the way out that people have been using for centuries. Blame it on foreigners. Tell them you went on this copy fix it forum and some guy from another country swore that this would fix it. Sometimes you guys are a big help, even when you don't solve my problem.
    The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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