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    *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    installing a fax board in an mp2501 shouldn't be THIS difficult!? first one i've done, and the 42 screws & 'move the main board to the left' (when they give you 1mm) is ridiculous! I realize this is a base/entry level machine, and corners are cut everywhere to save ca$h - but you couldn't make a slide in fax option, with an accessible Controller?? OK, i feel better now and won't go all De-Fens on my 2501's.


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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Quote Originally Posted by jam-o-matic View Post
    installing a fax board in an mp2501 shouldn't be THIS difficult!? first one i've done, and the 42 screws & 'move the main board to the left' (when they give you 1mm) is ridiculous! I realize this is a base/entry level machine, and corners are cut everywhere to save ca$h - but you couldn't make a slide in fax option, with an accessible Controller?? OK, i feel better now and won't go all De-Fens on my 2501's.

    I can top that. A Muratec f-112 needed a new feed roller and sep pad. To change the roller, all covers off, remove boards and enter the gear pack to remove the gear on the end of the roller so you can remove the shaft to get the roller off.

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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Quote Originally Posted by fixthecopier View Post
    I can top that. A Muratec f-112 needed a new feed roller and sep pad. To change the roller, all covers off, remove boards and enter the gear pack to remove the gear on the end of the roller so you can remove the shaft to get the roller off.
    You WIN!


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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Quote Originally Posted by fixthecopier View Post
    I can top that. A Muratec f-112 needed a new feed roller and sep pad. To change the roller, all covers off, remove boards and enter the gear pack to remove the gear on the end of the roller so you can remove the shaft to get the roller off.
    Genius at work! This engineer gets the award for the most labor required to change a frick'n feed tire, closely followed by all Konica Minolta products. =^..^=

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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Back in the early 90s, I serviced tons of Canon fax machines.

    The L700 series were the first to be plain paper laser models.

    For most intents and purposes, they were rock solid.

    However, when the laser went bad (usually the motor croaked), it was a 2 hour and 1 minute project to replace: 1 hour to tear it down, 1 minute to replace the part, and another hour to reassemle.

    It was like the entire machine was built around the laser.

    So, just when is this "old enough to know better" thing supposed to kick in?

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    I had one of those L777's at an airport. The laser was making a shrieking noise for nearly 3 months before it coded out. The traffic controllers all just assumed that it was a jet aircraft landing. =^..^=

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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    If I remember right, you had to remove 38+ screws to get to that lazer unit. Then put them all back in.


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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cycle Clutch View Post
    If I remember right, you had to remove 38+ screws to get to that lazer unit. Then put them all back in.
    All without having too many parts left over.

    So, just when is this "old enough to know better" thing supposed to kick in?

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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Quote Originally Posted by KenB View Post
    All without having too many parts left over.
    That is why they are called "pocket screws".

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    Re: *&% you Ricoh engineers! (rant)

    Reminds me of the panasonic UF8000/7000. To do anything with the fuser, all covers, the adf assy and this and that. about 1 hour and this machine is currently in the field. they are great fax machines, except for replacing those fusers. replaced one and one of the spring on the separation fingers was dislodged and had to do the whole teardown again. now i found a way to make sure it prints a few pages, even with the adf scanner off before reinstall. Now it is a routine repair with no left over screws.

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