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    Hi All

    what lubricants do you guys use on the different areas in modern mfp's ?
    And which do you think cause more problems than their worth.

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    Re: lube

    I use:
    Triflow: for drive components
    30W straight weight motor oil: for scanner rails
    IBM23 or Mobil Grease 28: for spring clutches, greaseable torque limiters
    Carbon Conductive Grease: for drum grounds, transfer contacts, and anywhere conductivity matters.
    HP500 High Temperature Grease: for fuser drive applications up to 400 degrees F.

    Note: WD40 is not a lubricant. It's good for cleaning rubber rollers or toner from metal fuser guides, but attacks plastics. So if you choose to clean rollers with it don't get it on anything plastic. Please don't spray the stuff wholesale on drive components. The plastic parts will melt.
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    Re: lube

    Quote Originally Posted by raider View Post
    Hi All

    what lubricants do you guys use on the different areas in modern mfp's ?
    And which do you think cause more problems than their worth.

    Regards
    Bandit
    blackcat4866 is right.
    I'll add that I've used Slick 50's "One Lube" grease in some high temperature applications with decent results, but I don't know if it is available anymore. Plus it is green colored and might look gross.
    When I worked for the mothership, our main high temp lube was one from DuPont called Krytox. It worked really well, but it's pretty expensive.
    I had a Samsung that was eating labels, even with the paper guide grounding update. I put a really thin coat of fuser oil (a viscous silicon oil) on the guides and that reduced the problem quite a bit. As it sounds like you're just getting into the business (sorry if I'm wrong), you probably won't see any of that, it was used on older machines frequently, but now I think it is only used on some high end color production machines. Rain-X isn't nearly as effective as fuser oil, but it can help if a non-porous surface needs to be slipperier. Be very careful if you use Rain-X on the windshield of your car though, it can give you a false sense of security, especially if the winter season there is like it is here. And it doesn't help that much if all you are going to do is drive around town, it is far more effective if you are driving on the interstate highways.


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    Re: lube

    White lithium grease on non fuser parts, and barierta grease from Ricoh on fuser parts.


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    Re: lube

    White lithium grease and light oil. That's all I use for lubrication. This duo has been working fine for 10 plus years.


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    Re: lube

    10w30 motor oil-scanner rails and bearings
    White lithium grease-all plastic to plastic, drive chains, etc. (pretty multi purpose)
    Lubriplate hi temp grease-fusers

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    When next you unbox the copier you sell and service, examine the gears, drive section and adf. Some manufactures use red or green grease and some colourless, so you have to pay attention. When the machine and parts are serviced, you can get hints of where to put grease and oil. Some self lubricating bushing still need lube as have seen some get completely worn off. Light oil like tri-flow is excellent for fast moving parts. I prefer not to use lithium grease but instead use synthetic grease with ptfe. the one i use is SUPER LUBE, it is excellent with plastics and high temp.
    Blackcat covered what would be a typical lube for a machine. I see some manufactures use grease is drive train and some don't, so a matter of your choice. Only thing, don't get grease, even the slightest in areas of the drum/dev and paper path or it can turn into a nightmare.
    I have solved many problems with grease and oil, especially noise. Lots of techs i know, don't even carry them. I do shop work, so general overhaul would mean more detail work, as outside techs would not be so indepth and skip the lube or plain forget about it.

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    Re: lube

    Does anyone know where to by a good heat resistant lubricator in Belgium, Germany or Netherlands?
    "PH500", "Super lube", or...?
    Greetings,
    Mark


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    Re: lube

    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.


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    Re: lube

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    I use:
    Triflow: for drive components
    30W straight weight motor oil: for scanner rails
    IBM23 or Mobil Grease 28: for spring clutches, greaseable torque limiters
    Carbon Conductive Grease: for drum grounds, transfer contacts, and anywhere conductivity matters.
    HP500 High Temperature Grease: for fuser drive applications up to 400 degrees F.

    Note: WD40 is not a lubricant. It's good for cleaning rubber rollers or toner from metal fuser guides, but attacks plastics. So if you choose to clean rollers with it don't get it on anything plastic. Please don't spray the stuff wholesale on drive components. The plastic parts will melt.
    =^..^=
    I agree on all the lubes you mentioned
    and DO NOT use WD on brass bushings.. it will dry them out and you WILL have to replace the bushings


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