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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    When you go to Cuba, you are shown only what the Cuban government allows you to see. That is unless you wish to risk spending time in jail. The people only tell what they are allowed to say otherwise they risk being executed.

    Was going to say the same thing. For a while I did read that US citizens were able to circumvent the travel ban and catch connecting flights to Cuba while either in Honduras, Mexico or some the other Central American counties that had ties and travel routes to Cuba. If I remember the scam/method was to grant a temporary visa to any US travelers for a price. And the reports news items these people wrote about when they got back to the states confirmed Cuban authorities allowed travel to only those sections that were "proper examples of life under socialism" Read that as being similar to say Detroit only allowing reporters to spend time in the upscale and maintained sections of Detroit, and not the crumbling middle class neighborhoods being abandoned after the auto factories where the family breadwinners closed.

    I grew up in Miami in the sixties. And of course knew and spent time with a lot of refugee children and their families. They made makeshift rafts to escape Castro and his goons. Oh yeah and if they were caught by the Cuban Coast Guard or Navy they were just as likely to spend a life sentence in a "workers camp, or if a repeat offender shot. The glorification of the murderous state police and Castro by the leftist in this country is completely outrageous. To hear how they glorify Castro and his regime is about what they are doing for the groups in charge of Venezuela now. I knew of several families who lost family members to late night raids based on "reports of hoarding and spreading of capitalist propaganda " by the arrested and convicted,(then shot by firing squad), convicts as a lesson to any others that dared defy the Castro government. There may have been some improvement since the mid sixties and early seventies. Enough people die or flee and the need for food and other goods is reduced. Cuba was also propped up by the old Soviet Union as a slap in the face to the US during the later stages of the cold war.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    So what is going on with President Trump's trip to Florida today to campaign style announce his new policies to Cuba?

    I have been to Cuba personally three times. It is a great, inexpensive place to go for a winter vacation. I would like to go back again.

    The USA's position on Cuba has totally failed for the last 49 years. President Obama recognized that failure and tried to make moves to normalize political relations. President Trump for the last 214 days has mostly counted his success as repealing the Obama era executive orders.

    President Trump, said today, said a lot things about Cuba that are likely not going to happen about Cuba. It was more of a campaign style rally than an actual policy presentation.

    Was the real motive to appeal to his Florida base and not really care about policy?
    Huh, weak sauce, man. You're better than this.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    So what is going on with President Trump's trip to Florida today to campaign style announce his new policies to Cuba?

    I have been to Cuba personally three times. It is a great, inexpensive place to go for a winter vacation. I would like to go back again.

    The USA's position on Cuba has totally failed for the last 49 years. President Obama recognized that failure and tried to make moves to normalize political relations. President Trump for the last 214 days has mostly counted his success as repealing the Obama era executive orders.

    President Trump, said today, said a lot things about Cuba that are likely not going to happen about Cuba. It was more of a campaign style rally than an actual policy presentation.

    Was the real motive to appeal to his Florida base and not really care about policy?
    MOST Cubans in florida applaud his move to continue to allow people to visit.. but they can't spend money at GOVERNMENT hotels..ect... he wants monies to go to THE PEOPLE.. the monies that have been funneled to Cuba during the last days of obama went to the castro brothers... not to the people.. same with the aid relief.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    There is so much #Winning in the Trump Administration that Trump's defense lawyer has had to hire his own defense lawyer.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    What any person believes is completely based on their own personal biases, unfortunately based on what their parents believed and thus those biases are perpetuated. One side can come up with info to prove one thing and the other side can come up with their own info to disprove it. The condervatards say one thing and the libtards say another. Both can't be right. Usually there is some grain of truth in rumours, so Is Trump guilty of everything that has been thrown at him, not likely. But is he completely innocent? Not likely. Hopefully time will tell.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    What any person believes is completely based on their own personal biases, unfortunately based on what their parents believed and thus those biases are perpetuated. One side can come up with info to prove one thing and the other side can come up with their own info to disprove it. The condervatards say one thing and the libtards say another. Both can't be right. Usually there is some grain of truth in rumours, so Is Trump guilty of everything that has been thrown at him, not likely. But is he completely innocent? Not likely. Hopefully time will tell.
    What isn't in dispute it that Russia hacked into our election process, they were in at least 39 different state's election systems as well as the Democratic and Republican Parties email systems, multiple US intelligence agencies do not dispute this FACT. The Republican Party currently controls all three branches of government and they are doing everything possible to not deal with Russian hacking, Why? What are they hiding? Where is the outrage from the fake patriots on the Right?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...king/92514592/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-u-s-elections


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Why would there be outrage? They've always tried to influence our elections. Why would you be more outraged this year than 2012?

    We have so many counties in this country tallying their votes in different ways, it'd be impossible for them to have a real influence over the outcome of the election.

    We're the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody is trying to influence our elections.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    Why would there be outrage? They've always tried to influence our elections. Why would you be more outraged this year than 2012?

    We have so many counties in this country tallying their votes in different ways, it'd be impossible for them to have a real influence over the outcome of the election.

    We're the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody is trying to influence our elections.
    they didn't hack VOTING machines.. they hacked the BOE servers and databases... voting machines are not ..." online"

    and besides we hack other countries and they hack us.. job security for the NSA - CIA - FBI and other alphabet groups...
    no vote tallies were changed or hurt in the hacking of the BOE.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    Why would there be outrage? They've always tried to influence our elections. Why would you be more outraged this year than 2012?

    We have so many counties in this country tallying their votes in different ways, it'd be impossible for them to have a real influence over the outcome of the election.

    We're the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody is trying to influence our elections.
    Why wouldn't there be outrage??? I know if I found out it happened here I wouldn't be pleased. Also, he didn't say he was any less or more outraged between the two elections, not sure why you would assume that.


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctl-Alt-Del View Post
    What isn't in dispute it that Russia hacked into our election process, they were in at least 39 different state's election systems as well as the Democratic and Republican Parties email systems, multiple US intelligence agencies do not dispute this FACT. The Republican Party currently controls all three branches of government and they are doing everything possible to not deal with Russian hacking, Why? What are they hiding? Where is the outrage from the fake patriots on the Right?

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...king/92514592/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-u-s-elections
    Re: Terrorist on the inside or outside:
    If you believe that electronic devices cannot be hacked or interfered with than think again.

    Just last week on our local media TV screens, the gov't (ASIO/FED) stated publicly they can shut down all mobile phones inside a sports stadium area, and SMS peoples phones to guide them to the nearest safe exit. The fact the FED can interfere with everyone's communications is proof of point on its own that large scale hacking is fact.

    Who declares the such-n-such stadium exit to be in a safe zone in any case?
    Who has the foresight knowledge to declare what area is safe?

    What's to stop other terrorists from hacking Wi-Fi and mobile phones exactly the same as the FED? What's to stop these "hackers" from changing electronic voter records or influencing peoples general choices or, much worse....

    Can a terrorist organisation also hack SMS and declare an area is safe?
    Please all evacuate to the designated bomb locations. Move in an orderly fashion the bombs have pre-set timers.

    The world is moving at a fast pace. Technology is moving faster...
    The younger people see progress as normal, the older people struggle to even understand it.

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