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    Quote Originally Posted by fixthecopier View Post
    Well believe it or not, they exist and ignoring them and pretending they don't exist allows them to grow. They should be recognized and then wiped out. The united States Military take these groups seriously and consider them a danger. The military also believes climate change is one of the biggest threats to our national security.


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    That is right. But the problem is that when liberals hang that term on anyone who doesn't agree with them at the moment, it loses its meaning. After that the true bigots are free to do what ever they feel when no one is watching. In my opinion Political Correctness is some that true bigots use to hide behind. Before it came into use, you could spot a bigot easily. Frequently within seconds after they opened their mouths

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    That is right. But the problem is that when liberals hang that term on anyone who doesn't agree with them at the moment, it loses its meaning. After that the true bigots are free to do what ever they feel when no one is watching. In my opinion Political Correctness is some that true bigots use to hide behind. Before it came into use, you could spot a bigot easily. Frequently within seconds after they opened their mouths

    We were just talking about how to spot a racist yesterday. One way is when you hear someone start a sentence with the phrase "I'm not a racist...". I know hundreds of people who are not racist and they never user that phrase. Kind of like you never hear truly smart people say how smart they are. people who brag that they are smart, really are not very smart at all.


    Trump says he's 'like, really smart,' 'a very stable genius'


    I have never really spotted someone who was considered political correct, who would be thought of as racist. They may be annoying, but not racist. You would need to provide an example on that one. As far as spotting them, you can judge people by the company they keep. Trumps policies seem to have drawn some of the most racist supporters in the country. It is true that not all Trump supporters are racist, but everyone I know that I would consider a racist, is a Trump supporter. He could make public statements that would distance himself from these groups and could make policies that would cause them to no longer support him, but he chooses not to. Maybe because those statements and policies would cause him to lose support among his non racist supporters.

    Our genius of a president was the only human not smart enough to condemn nazi's after Charolettesville, saying there were good people on both sides. there are not good people on both sides. If you stand behind a nazi symbol, you are a racist and a piece of shit.

    Along those same lines, people who claim the confederate flag is about heritage, not hate. Bullshit. Ask anyone who makes that claim to tell you about their states history in the 1800's and you will get a blank stare. Robert E. Lee, who would be considered by many to be the face of the confederacy, stated that the confederate flag was the flag of treason. He stated that at his funeral, he would not be buried in his uniform, but in a plain suit and people who attended were not allowed to wear the confederate uniform. Ask any of those heritage people if they are aware of that fun fact.

    Also when white supremacist march in places in Europe where it is illegal to display the nazi flag, they often use the confederate flag as a substitute. nuf said...


    Not only was Lee opposed to Confederate memorials, "he favored erasing battlefields from the landscape altogether," Horn wrote.
    He even supported getting rid of the Confederate flag after the Civil War ended, and didn't want them them flying above Washington College, which he was president of after the war.


    "Lee did not want such divisive symbols following him to the grave," Horn wrote. "At his funeral in 1870, flags were notably absent from the procession. Former Confederate soldiers marching did not don their old military uniforms, and neither did the body they buried."
    "His Confederate uniform would have been 'treason' perhaps!" Lee's daughter wrote, according to Horn.
    "Lee believed countries that erased visible signs of civil war recovered from conflicts quicker," Horn told PBS. "He was worried that by keeping these symbols alive, it would keep the divisions alive."



    “White supremacists in Europe will often use American hate symbols just as white supremacists here will use hate symbols derived from Europe,” he told HuffPost. “I’ve seen Swedish skinheads with Klan and Confederate tattoos.”

    Neo-Nazis across Europe ― especially in Germany, where displaying the swastika in public is outlawed ― have been known to use the Confederate flag. And they well know what it means, Pitcavage said.

    At an anti-immigrant rally in Poland in 2015, a protester could be seen waving both a White Pride flag and a Confederate flag. And here’s the flag at an anti-refugee rally in Germany that same year:
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    Quote Originally Posted by fixthecopier View Post
    We were just talking about how to spot a racist yesterday. One way is when you hear someone start a sentence with the phrase "I'm not a racist...". I know hundreds of people who are not racist and they never user that phrase. Kind of like you never hear truly smart people say how smart they are. people who brag that they are smart, really are not very smart at all.
    The best way is when they call anyone who does not agree with them on certain political issues a racist.

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    Well believe it or not, they exist and ignoring them and pretending they don't exist allows them to grow. They should be recognized and then wiped out. The united States Military take these groups seriously and consider them a danger. The military also believes climate change is one of the biggest threats to our national security.
    We disagree.

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    I don't think Trump supports anyone who would fly a Nazi flag. I personally don't think I've ever seen an actual nazi flag except in the news when they're reporting these "protests." I happen to think if people ignored them, they'd die out.

    I don't really understand the confederate flag. To me, it's always meant the southern-boy-attitude. I don't know, because I'm a northerner--but it's never really meant racism to me. I don't really care if it's there or not. If someone wants to waste a bunch of time complaining about it, they're welcome to it.

    Again, I don't know any white supremacists. But I know plenty of racists. I've gotten my ass whooped several times in high-school for being white. So my experience with racism seems to be a lot different than everyone else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    The best way is when they call anyone who does not agree with them on certain political issues a racist.
    Using that one criteria to pick out a racist doesn't seem like the most accurate method.
    A racist is someone who believes their race is somehow superior to other races. They usually base their superiority on something ridiculous like the colour of their skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    I don't think Trump supports anyone who would fly a Nazi flag. I personally don't think I've ever seen an actual nazi flag except in the news when they're reporting these "protests." I happen to think if people ignored them, they'd die out.

    I don't really understand the confederate flag. To me, it's always meant the southern-boy-attitude. I don't know, because I'm a northerner--but it's never really meant racism to me. I don't really care if it's there or not. If someone wants to waste a bunch of time complaining about it, they're welcome to it.

    Again, I don't know any white supremacists. But I know plenty of racists. I've gotten my ass whooped several times in high-school for being white. So my experience with racism seems to be a lot different than everyone else's.
    It seems to me, by your quick description, that your experience with racism is exactly the same as everybody else.
    There are a couple different views on whether to ignore racism or to shine a light on it. One view is if you ignore it, it can build in secrecy and get stronger. The other view is if you shine a light on it, it can become enticing to certain people and thus become stronger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    I don't think Trump supports anyone who would fly a Nazi flag. I personally don't think I've ever seen an actual nazi flag except in the news when they're reporting these "protests." I happen to think if people ignored them, they'd die out.

    I don't really understand the confederate flag. To me, it's always meant the southern-boy-attitude. I don't know, because I'm a northerner--but it's never really meant racism to me. I don't really care if it's there or not. If someone wants to waste a bunch of time complaining about it, they're welcome to it.

    Again, I don't know any white supremacists. But I know plenty of racists. I've gotten my ass whooped several times in high-school for being white. So my experience with racism seems to be a lot different than everyone else's.
    I remember seeing a picture of that punk who shot up a church. I also noticed that in addition to holding the Confederate flag, there was a huge Gold's Gym banner on the wall. I don't remember anyone protesting Gold's Gym.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    Demonizing democrats as Socialist/Communist reflects a deep information silo point of view.

    The Democrats under Senator Schumer deliberately "caved" on their Gov't weekend "Shut Down" position to cause as little harm as possible to everyone involved while making a symbolic statement that on Feb 9 if the the Republicans do not move towards an acceptable solution more shutdowns are possible.

    President Trump is now under pressure to clearly describe his position on DACA and produce a budget that can pass both Congress and the Senate.

    As stated the Budget is at least four months late. You cannot professionally run neither a Corporation nor a Gov't that way. In my copier job, I would be fired if my budget was that late.
    If you think that Schumer caved because he wanted to cause as little harm as possible, you are totally delusional! The Dems have not produced a "budget" in eight years! Calling Democrats as Socialist/Communist does not reflect on any "deep" point of view, only stating what they are! You are the one who wants to stick your head in the sand and deny what they are are. Why do you not stick to Canadian Politics which bear a greater review! You are trulyi pathetic

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    As long as the USA threatens Canada with unfair changes to NAFTA, US politics are a big concern to all Canadians. US News dominates our national media. The US has proposed more trade sanctions against Canada than any other nation including Mexico.

    In a surprise setback to to President Trump's trade policies, the US International Trade Commission (based in the USA and staffed by Americans) ruled against the US Commerce Dept's 300% tariff on commercial airplanes manufactured in Canada and sold to US airlines.

    U.S. trade body backs Canadian plane maker Bombardier against Boeing | Reuters

    To suggest that the Obama administration did not produce any budgets for eight years is a denial of facts.

    Obama’s Last Budget, and Last Budget Battle With Congress - The New York Times

    President Trump has to produce a budget by Feb 9th or risk another gov't shutdown. Currently he has threatened that no DACA deal is possible unless he gets $25B for the wall. A wall that was supposed to be paid for by Mexico, not Americans.
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