Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

**copier addict** · 06-05-2017

Originally Posted by Phil B.

and you must admit ... if CNN-MSNBC does a poll.. who are they going to get to call in from their viewers.. LIBERALS... just like you would expect Republicans would take the Faux News polls... frankly I don't put much faith in polls esp when just before the election all the MSNBC -CNN - ABC -CBS polls were calling for a landslide by Clinton.

You don't conduct a poll by having people call in. The pollster calls out to random people

**slimslob** · 06-07-2017

Originally Posted by gregoryrbrts

First, this is a copier forum not politics.org.

Correction, this thread is in the Rants, Raves, and Everything Else forum. This type of thread is exactly what this forum was added for. I remember a couple of years ago there was a discussion thread on gun ownership/control laws.

**slimslob** · 06-07-2017

Originally Posted by copier addict

You don't conduct a poll by having people call in. The pollster calls out to random people

Many polls ARE conducted by having viewers call in. The local NBC station has one almost every day on an issue in the news, sometimes local news sometimes national or international.

As for national polling companies, many are man on the street type of polls. These therefore are taken in major cities. The sampling is therefore tilted toward the liberal side. A look at the election results maps will show this. Also those participating in these are not those with full time day jobs. Another tilt to the left.

Many pollsters also use qualifying preliminary questions. If from your answers to those questions they decide that you are too conservative, they do not ask you the main questions. They will also ask questions to which the answer can be interpreted incorrectly. As an example, a number of years school children were asked if their mother fixed them a hot breakfast. The children, wanting to be truthful, would only say yes if it was their mother that fixed breakfast. If it was their father, a grandparent, an older sibling, etc they would answer no.

**SalesServiceGuy** · 06-07-2017

President Obama and Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau having dinner at a trendy Montreal restaurant on June 06. Obama had just given a speech to the Chamber of Commerce on his hopes and vision for the USA and the world.

Top 5 Obama moments from his first-ever trip to Montreal - Montreal - CBC News

**copier addict** · 06-07-2017

Originally Posted by slimslob

Many polls ARE conducted by having viewers call in. The local NBC station has one almost every day on an issue in the news, sometimes local news sometimes national or international.

As for national polling companies, many are man on the street type of polls. These therefore are taken in major cities. The sampling is therefore tilted toward the liberal side. A look at the election results maps will show this. Also those participating in these are not those with full time day jobs. Another tilt to the left.

Many pollsters also use qualifying preliminary questions. If from your answers to those questions they decide that you are too conservative, they do not ask you the main questions. They will also ask questions to which the answer can be interpreted incorrectly. As an example, a number of years school children were asked if their mother fixed them a hot breakfast. The children, wanting to be truthful, would only say yes if it was their mother that fixed breakfast. If it was their father, a grandparent, an older sibling, etc they would answer no.

While I agree that polls can be biased one way or the other, I think it's pretty closed minded to assume that only right wingers have day jobs. I am certain there are many, many "liberals" who have full time day jobs. It isn't just a right wing phenomenon, regardless of your own personal biases.

**theengel** · 06-07-2017

Obama was the biggest disaster that ever hit this country. It's so embarrassing. We accomplished so much by electing our first black president. Think of how far we've come in the past sixty years to have been able to accomplish that. And it had to be THAT guy. Dreadful.

**copier addict** · 06-07-2017

Originally Posted by theengel

Obama was the biggest disaster that ever hit this country. It's so embarrassing. We accomplished so much by electing our first black president. Think of how far we've come in the past sixty years to have been able to accomplish that. And it had to be THAT guy. Dreadful.

I would have guessed either 911, Pearl Harbour, The Great Depression, slavery, etc etc as a bigger disaster than one specific president.

**slimslob** · 06-07-2017

Originally Posted by copier addict

While I agree that polls can be biased one way or the other, I think it's pretty closed minded to assume that only right wingers have day jobs. I am certain there are many, many "liberals" who have full time day jobs. It isn't just a right wing phenomenon, regardless of your own personal biases.

I did not say that only "right wingers" have jobs. Just your liberal false assumptions.