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Likes: What they do not realize is that in a single payer system, they are paying for healthcare whether they use it or not.Originally Posted by copier addict
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What they do not realize is that in a single payer system, they are paying for healthcare whether they use it or not.
What needs to be taken from this election is the signal that the American political system has become so corrupt, so mistrusted, and so hated, that the public decided to "try anything other than another career politician". The saying that there is no room in American politics for an honest man holds true. Many states feel like they send an honest man to Washington but they don't get one back when he returns. Maybe, just maybe, some boisterous speak before thinking person is just what is needed to put fear in the lawmakers that are running just below ground level. That their shady dealings will be found out and they will be exposed for their misbehavior. If a person expected "more of the same old politics" after this election, then you will have plenty to talk and write about. If you expected some sort of correction, good or bad, I hope this is the change we all hoped for.
Of course they know this.
With an insurance run system, aren't you paying insurance whether you use it or not?
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BUT being a person that didn't quali for the ACA.. my tax dollars were still paying for others health care even tho I was paying out of my pocket ( and the fine from the ACA )
i was told EVEN THO I had pre-exisiting condition ( diabetes ) I didn't qualify for the ACA.. I couldn't afford health care otherwise..so I payed for my insulin and pills and doctor ( once a year Dr visit ) from the pittance I make turning a screwdriver ( up until this paycheck 13.50$/hr ..woo hoo now I make 14$ even with 29yrs in the industry )
I am no expert on US healthcare. Your story is certainly a strong case on the shortcomings of the US system.
In Canada, I pay a 15% sales tax on every goods and service that I purchase. If I need healthcare, I have to pay a $10.00 admin fee for all of the care that I need. On prescription drugs, it varies but rarely does a prescription cost me more than $20.00. I consider myself to be fairly healthy and have no serious health problems at past the mid century age.
I do pay an approx $20.00 supplemental fee that comes off my paycheck for extra healthcare services.
I pay maybe 5% extra on my Federal and Provincial tax returns.
I cannot be denied for pre-existing conditions and my children are covered on my health plan until they are 25.
Depending on the healthcare issue, you can go into a walk in clinic on the same day and pay $10.00. For more complex issues, a visit to a specialist might involve wait times of up to three months.
Taken all of the above into consideration, I have never personally been concerned about the cost of Canadian healthcare in my life.
The USA has a totally different mindset on healthcare than Canada. In the USA, it is for profit and you pay the highest prescription drug prices in the world. In Canada, healthcare is non profit. Healthcare costs do take up a large portion of our budget.
The Republican party is publicly threatening to withhold Obamacare subsidy payments to health insurance providers forcing them to abandon many counties in the USA. This potentially leaves up to 23M US citizens without the availability of healthcare in 2018.
It sounds, like in your case, if you were to have a serious car crash, due to no fault of your own, god forbid, you would be both financially ruined and perhaps live in pain for the rest of your life.
The USA Congress has until August to propose a comprehensive health care plan that will be approved by the Senate. Healthcare has to be completed and signed into law before President Trump's proposed budget can be approved because a huge reduction in healthcare spending is needed to fund his huge increase in defence spending and the wall.
You are paying only for yourself and your own family. Not for everyone who wants to sit on their thumbs and try to suck the life blood out of those who work for a living.
So, you would rather line the pockets of insurance company shareholders than have some of your money maybe benefit someone less fortunate? I read that US individuals on average pay more for health care and get less for their money than countries with universal health-care
My experienced is that the more government involvement there is in healthcare, the greater the overall cost becomes. Under government regulations, insurance companies are required to provide coverage for things that the average person is not going to need.
Know people that are thru the Obama Care, small self employed business, couple in their mid 50's, pay monthly premium's of $ 1500.00 with a $ 10,000.00($ 5000.00 @) deductible, imagine that, before insurance kicks in, they have fork over 10'g, on top of paying $ 1500 per month, does any of that make sense, and to boot, you have all these major insurance companies getting out because the are losing money. It's a broken system, and it does need to get fixed, somehow. Don't hold your breath.... Thank a democrat for this messy health care system they pushed thru congress.
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