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    Notice how the narrative is slowly changing from candidate Trump colluding with the Russians to Russia interfered with the election to...
    " Ronsenstein, said the indictment contains no allegations that any American citizen knew they were dealing with a Russian operative and there is no allegation that the Russian activity altered the outcome of the 2016 election."
    Most interesting...Ehh

    Also ...."According to the indictment, the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, started interfering as early as 2014 in U.S. politics,"....Which begs the question....Why did Obama do little to nothing to stop them in the early stages..?

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
    Notice how the narrative is slowly changing from candidate Trump colluding with the Russians to Russia interfered with the election to...
    " Ronsenstein, said the indictment contains no allegations that any American citizen knew they were dealing with a Russian operative and there is no allegation that the Russian activity altered the outcome of the 2016 election."
    Most interesting...Ehh

    Also ...."According to the indictment, the Internet Research Agency, a Russian troll farm, started interfering as early as 2014 in U.S. politics,"....Which begs the question....Why did Obama do little to nothing to stop them in the early stages..?
    Just because this indictment doesn't have collusion in it doesn't mean future indictments won't.
    Also, the troll farm may have started in 2014, but it doesn't mean they knew about it in 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Just because this indictment doesn't have collusion in it doesn't mean future indictments won't.
    Also, the troll farm may have started in 2014, but it doesn't mean they knew about it in 2014.
    The premise of my post stands....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
    The premise of my post stands....
    Okay.

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    Trump's gas tax would wipe out 60% of tax cut benefit for individuals, analyst estimates


    President Trump reportedly endorses the idea of a 25-cent per-gallon gasoline tax to pay for infrastructure improvements for roads, bridges and highways.
    Strategas Research points out that the higher tax, along with expected increases in fuel costs, would take away about $71 billion from consumers, or 60 percent of the expected $120 billion gain from tax cuts.



    The increased cost of gas at the pump would also be nine times larger than the estimated $4 billion companies are handing to workers in the form of bonuses, due to corporate tax cuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Dems to Trump: Still think Russia investigation is a ‘hoax’?






    Democrats lashed out Friday at President Donald Trump after the investigation he has called a "hoax" and a "witch hunt" resulted in the indictment of 13 Russian nationals on charges of interfering in the 2016 election.


    "For all of those who have been asking, 'where is the evidence of a crime?' — this is it. This is the criminal conspiracy," Rep. Elijah Cummings of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said in a statement. "Today's indictments show precisely how the Russians worked to help the Trump campaign, in startling and extensive detail."
    But ir does not involve Trump. They have however discovered the dossier that the entire Russian collusion was based on was nothing more than fake document commissioned by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Add to that Russian contributions to the Clinton foundation and Hillary as Secretary of State arraigned the transfer of 20% of the US uranium assets to the Russian.

    Uranium One Deal: Obama Administration Complicit, Not Just | National Review

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    But ir does not involve Trump. They have however discovered the dossier that the entire Russian collusion was based on was nothing more than fake document commissioned by Hillary Clinton and the DNC. Add to that Russian contributions to the Clinton foundation and Hillary as Secretary of State arraigned the transfer of 20% of the US uranium assets to the Russian.

    Uranium One Deal: Obama Administration Complicit, Not Just | National Review

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    The Pinocchio Test
    Trump and his campaign claim that Clinton “gave” or “handed over” 20 percent of American uranium rights to the Russians. Through the Uranium One deal, the Russian state-owned nuclear energy company does now have control over 20 percent of U.S. uranium extraction capacity. But it cannot export the uranium.


    In 2010, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States approved the sale of the majority of the shares to the Russians. The State Department was one of nine agencies on the committee that approved the deal. The deal was also separately approved by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission.


    There is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state. Theoretically, as Schweizer says, Clinton could have intervened. But even then, it ultimately would have been Obama’s decision whether to suspend or block the deal.


    We wavered between Three and Four Pinocchios. Trump so often uses broad-brushed language that pushes him into Four Pinocchio territory, and this is yet another one of those cases. He specifically names Hillary Clinton as the active agent in the Uranium One deal, saying she “gave them” or “handed over” uranium to the Russians, but that is not the case. Then, he further claimed the sale went forward in exchange “for a big payment.” There’s no evidence for that claim either.


    Trump could have avoided so many Pinocchios had he been more careful with the language. For example: “Hillary Clinton’s State Department was one of nine agencies that approved the deal.” Words matter.


    Four Pinocchios

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.3b6b8fd7c5d7

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    President Trump's 'Russia hoax' turns out to be real in 37-page indictment

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-russia-hoax-real-20180216-story.html


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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    President Trump's 'Russia hoax' turns out to be real in 37-page indictment

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-trump-russia-hoax-real-20180216-story.html

    Correction, the 37-page indictment had to do with the President Obama administration's failure to identify and stop foreign agents operating in the United States using fake identification.

    Your larger font and bold face says that you subscribe to the policy of "tell a lie loud enough and long enough people will start to believe it".

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    Correction, the 37-page indictment had to do with the President Obama administration's failure to identify and stop foreign agents operating in the United States using fake identification.

    Your larger font and bold face says that you subscribe to the policy of "tell a lie loud enough and long enough people will start to believe it".
    Typical Blame Obama and apparently it Completely Fooled President Trump as he repeatedly claimed it was a Hoax.

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