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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    BUT AREN'T WE ALL?

    Yes MOST liberals ARE!


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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Just one more clue that he has absolutely no idea what he is doing. He is worried Iran was destabilizing the middle east, but he is destabizing the world. He is a complete idiot.
    once persons OPINION! and we all know what they smell like

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    Yes MOST liberals ARE!
    Oooooo. Good one. Did you come up with that all by yourself? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil B. View Post
    once persons OPINION! and we all know what they smell like
    You may want to re-read this one, because it doesn't make any sense.
    Although, right now I smell like Right Gard.

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Corporations’ lies keep shifting on pay-for-play with Trump

    trumpwithmoney960.jpg

    It took less than 48 hours after the lawyer for a pornography star suing Donald Trump released documents alleging a massive pay-for-play scheme involving major U.S. corporations and the president for the companies mentioned to fess up.


    Michael Avenatti, lawyer for the adult film actress Stormy Daniels, who is suing Donald Trump, released his bombshell report Tuesday night, alleging that more than $3 million had been paid into a phony shell company, Essential Consultants, L.L.C., by corporations and individuals seeking to buy access to President Trump. Within 24 hours, proof emerged that it was actually more than $4.4 million that flowed through that account—and only hours after that, it was learned that even that figure was probably low-balling the amount of money involved.


    Admissions by the companies themselves that they paid money into Trump attorney Michael Cohen’s shell company verified the initial Avenatti allegations. Even more shocking than their confessions, however, were the constantly changing stories and lies that accompanied them.


    Korea Aerospace, which was angling for a big U.S. government contract to build warplanes, first issued a statement that it “didn’t know” that the shell company to which it had given the money had any connection to Trump. The company’s spokespeople claimed they were paying Cohen for advice on regulations that govern corporations in the U.S. Cohen is known well as Trump’s fixer or bagman, and the idea that a major corporation would hire someone who publicly threatens people he opposes in court with making their lives “f—in’ miserable” is ridiculous at best.


    The Avenatti documents alleged that AT&T was another company that paid money (initially $200,000) to the Cohen shell company to buy influence with Trump. The company confessed that it actually paid three times that amount—$600,000—to Cohen to share his “expertise” on regulatory reform. They changed that explanation about four hours after their communications director released it and said instead that they made the payments to gain insight “into the mind and the inner workings of Donald Trump.”


    The company accompanied that hilarious statement with an explanation that it had paid Cohen $50,000 a month for 12 months and that it had been contacted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and were “cooperating” with his investigation. At no point did AT&T admit their most likely reason for paying Cohen: to buy influence with the government for a favorable ruling on a corporate merger they were seeking.


    Novartis, the drug giant, at first said its decision to pay Cohen was made by a former CEO who is no longer with the company. The corporation said it continued to pay Cohen for consultation regarding health care policy.


    It would seem, if these companies are to be believed, that Cohen, the president’s bagman, is a Renaissance Man—someone like Benjamin Franklin, a jack of all trades. They have variously paid him for his expertise in corporate governance, psychology, telecom regulation, health care policy, and perhaps more.


    Half a day later, Novartis changed their story and said, incredibly, that they had actually paid Cohen for nothing. The company said it realized several months into the deal that he was not giving them anything worthwhile.


    That left Novartis with having to explain why, after realizing that they had paid him for “nothing,” they continued send cash his way for another eight or nine months.


    Three different explanations were still not enough for Novartis, so last night they issued a fourth explanation saying the whole episode was a “mistake” but that they couldn’t get out of their contract with Cohen because it didn’t have an escape clause.


    Can anyone really believe that a major corporation like Novartis would operate that way? The fact that Trump got the Novartis CEO a place at a dinner for the top 15 global corporate executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland was not mentioned at all in the company’s explanations. Nor did they mention anything about their hopes for expeditious approval of the drug patents they had pending before the U.S. government.


    Corporations were not alone in lining up to pay-for-play by paying Cohen.


    Viktor Vekselberg, the internationally active Russian oligarch and gangster, put a hefty $500,000 into the hands of Trump’s bagman.


    The lies and the obfuscation by big corporations, the president, his bagman, and the assortment of oligarchs and gangsters with which they cavort shouldn’t surprise any of us by now, of course. It will be interesting to learn, however, whether the Cohen shell company was set up by Trump and his lawyer to sell access or whether it was set up for them by gangsters, oligarchs, and corporations to buy control over the White House and the U.S. government.


    Either way, it’s pretty horrible, but it’s just about what we can expect when the capitalist system is allowed to operate unchecked.

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    Corporations’ lies keep shifting on pay-for-play with Trump

    trumpwithmoney960.jpg

    It took less than 48 hours after the lawyer for a pornography star suing Donald Trump released documents alleging a massive pay-for-play scheme involving major U.S. corporations and the president for the companies mentioned to fess up.


    Michael Avenatti, lawyer for the adult film actress Stormy Daniels, who is suing Donald Trump, released his bombshell report Tuesday night, alleging that more than $3 million had been paid into a phony shell company, Essential Consultants, L.L.C., by corporations and individuals seeking to buy access to President Trump. Within 24 hours, proof emerged that it was actually more than $4.4 million that flowed through that account—and only hours after that, it was learned that even that figure was probably low-balling the amount of money involved.


    Admissions by the companies themselves that they paid money into Trump attorney Michael Cohen’s shell company verified the initial Avenatti allegations. Even more shocking than their confessions, however, were the constantly changing stories and lies that accompanied them.


    Korea Aerospace, which was angling for a big U.S. government contract to build warplanes, first issued a statement that it “didn’t know” that the shell company to which it had given the money had any connection to Trump. The company’s spokespeople claimed they were paying Cohen for advice on regulations that govern corporations in the U.S. Cohen is known well as Trump’s fixer or bagman, and the idea that a major corporation would hire someone who publicly threatens people he opposes in court with making their lives “f—in’ miserable” is ridiculous at best.


    The Avenatti documents alleged that AT&T was another company that paid money (initially $200,000) to the Cohen shell company to buy influence with Trump. The company confessed that it actually paid three times that amount—$600,000—to Cohen to share his “expertise” on regulatory reform. They changed that explanation about four hours after their communications director released it and said instead that they made the payments to gain insight “into the mind and the inner workings of Donald Trump.”


    The company accompanied that hilarious statement with an explanation that it had paid Cohen $50,000 a month for 12 months and that it had been contacted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller and were “cooperating” with his investigation. At no point did AT&T admit their most likely reason for paying Cohen: to buy influence with the government for a favorable ruling on a corporate merger they were seeking.


    Novartis, the drug giant, at first said its decision to pay Cohen was made by a former CEO who is no longer with the company. The corporation said it continued to pay Cohen for consultation regarding health care policy.


    It would seem, if these companies are to be believed, that Cohen, the president’s bagman, is a Renaissance Man—someone like Benjamin Franklin, a jack of all trades. They have variously paid him for his expertise in corporate governance, psychology, telecom regulation, health care policy, and perhaps more.


    Half a day later, Novartis changed their story and said, incredibly, that they had actually paid Cohen for nothing. The company said it realized several months into the deal that he was not giving them anything worthwhile.


    That left Novartis with having to explain why, after realizing that they had paid him for “nothing,” they continued send cash his way for another eight or nine months.


    Three different explanations were still not enough for Novartis, so last night they issued a fourth explanation saying the whole episode was a “mistake” but that they couldn’t get out of their contract with Cohen because it didn’t have an escape clause.


    Can anyone really believe that a major corporation like Novartis would operate that way? The fact that Trump got the Novartis CEO a place at a dinner for the top 15 global corporate executives at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland was not mentioned at all in the company’s explanations. Nor did they mention anything about their hopes for expeditious approval of the drug patents they had pending before the U.S. government.


    Corporations were not alone in lining up to pay-for-play by paying Cohen.


    Viktor Vekselberg, the internationally active Russian oligarch and gangster, put a hefty $500,000 into the hands of Trump’s bagman.


    The lies and the obfuscation by big corporations, the president, his bagman, and the assortment of oligarchs and gangsters with which they cavort shouldn’t surprise any of us by now, of course. It will be interesting to learn, however, whether the Cohen shell company was set up by Trump and his lawyer to sell access or whether it was set up for them by gangsters, oligarchs, and corporations to buy control over the White House and the U.S. government.


    Either way, it’s pretty horrible, but it’s just about what we can expect when the capitalist system is allowed to operate unchecked.
    After all that I sense a deflection to how bad Obama and Clinton are.

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    They're called lobbyists, dingbat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    They're called lobbyists, dingbat.
    So much for drain the swamp. Just another Lie
    Duped Again by the Con man
    Looks like we are going to need a lot. more FBI agents.

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    MORE Corruption Pay for Play
    Mueller Asked Ford for Records After It Rejected Michael Cohen Consulting Overture
    Michael Cohen, who has served as President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, made an overture to provide consulting services to Ford Motor Co. in January 2017 but was quickly rebuffed, people familiar with the matter said.
    Mr. Cohen, touting his proximity to the president, contacted Ford’s office in Washington, D.C.—an approach that Special Counsel Robert Mueller learned about in the course of his investigation, the people said.
    Mr. Mueller’s team has since requested information from Ford about the outreach, including emails and records, and has interviewed Ford’s head of government affairs, Ziad Ojakli, the people said

    Mueller Asked Ford for Records After It Rejected Michael Cohen Consulting Overture - WSJ

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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    You may want to re-read this one, because it doesn't make any sense.
    Although, right now I smell like Right Gard.

    another opinion!

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