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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
    WOW.......This post is nothing but a stunning blatant display of double standards and hypocrisy...
    well when someone just relies on MSNBC/CNN/ABC ect for the 'facts' what do you expect....

    kinda like the Weather Channel reporter from Wilmington this past weekend ... making it look like the wind was so terrible... there weren't any whitecaps on the water behind him.... then two folks in shorts and windbreakers went walking behind him not STRUGGLING to walk in the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
    WOW.......This post is nothing but a stunning blatant display of double standards and hypocrisy...
    Please explain this response. It is pretty accurate. The US milk industry is heavily subsidised. Canada has a system that helps limit production so as to help producers stay in business.

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    The second largest milk producing state in the USA, Nebraska, produces more milk than all of Canada in any given year.

    The US gov't provided direct and indirect support to its dairy industry of $22.5 B in 2015.

    In 2015, 73% of milk farm returns enjoyed some form of gov't support.

    The US Dept of Agriculture has detailed that over the last decade, US farm prices for milk has failed to cover the cost of production.

    U.S. dairy subsidies equal 73 percent of producer returns, says new report – RealAgriculture

    Fair trade is in the eye of the beholder. If you want to believe a US President who is documented to have made over 4,000+ false or misleading claims in less than two years in office, that is your choice.
    Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 09-18-2018 at 06:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    The second largest milk producing state in the USA, Nebraska, produces more milk than all of Canada in any given year.

    The US gov't provided direct and indirect support to its dairy industry of $22.5 B in 2015.

    In 2015, 73% of milk farm returns enjoyed some form of gov't support.

    The US Dept of Agriculture has detailed that over the last decade, US farm prices for milk has failed to cover the cost of production.

    U.S. dairy subsidies equal 73 percent of producer returns, says new report – RealAgriculture

    Fair trade is in the eye of the beholder. If you want to believe a US President who is documented to have lied over 4,000+ times in less than two years in office, that is your choice.
    It's humourous that fair trade is being discussed by a "man" who is known to have had contractors do work for him and then refuse to pay them (trump).
    And he lies daily, even when he doesn't have to. It seems to be a compulsion for him.

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    It has been reported that Canada has offered concessions on the dairy issue with the USA but wants to preserve the current anti dumping dispute panel and protection for Canadian cultural sectors.

    The USA wants to abolish or limit both.

    The USA seems to be taking the tact that it is my way or no way.

    The Prime Minister of Canada said yesterday, if no good deal can be found then Canada will not sign the NAFTA trade agreement before Sept 30. Most Canadian polls support the Prime Ministers position and reject agreeing to the USA's bullying tactics.

    For many US states and industries, Canada is their largest trading partner.

    When you throw the mid-term elections, the China trade war and a potential US Gov't shut down at the end of Sept, the Trump Administration has a lot to handle.

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    Us milk subsidies?? That chairwoman and developer of the US farm bill is Debbie Stabenow. Lets get her replaced this fall and put in someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpie View Post
    Us milk subsidies?? That chairwoman and developer of the US farm bill is Debbie Stabenow. Lets get her replaced this fall and put in someone else.
    Similar problem here in OZ. The government deregulated the Milk industry. Over the many years the industry has been reduced down to around 200 dairy farms across the nation.

    The problem is not the dairy industry pricing driving the industry broke. The problem exists that fewer and fewer people can drink milk or even GM soya milk products.

    The reason they can't drink dairy products any more is probably caused from a type of hydrogen sulphide gas bacteria that lives in peoples gut an bowl lining.The hydro-gas bacteria causes serious water retention and body water bloating (over weight, false diabetes).

    If you have a milk allergy its highly likely you have a similar allergy to many forms of flour(alox chemical), and canola oil base food products.The hydro-bacteria thrives in canola oil at an increased rate. Red meat will exacerbate the bowl an increase gas production. But your body definitely, definitely, absolutely needs a ready source of regular iron and essential minerals, to help prevent anaemia. Regulated iron absorbs the hydrogen gas and dispels the bodies heavy water(H4) component cause by hydro-gas. Of course you could always do regular exercise and remove any toxic heavy body water that way too...
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    The USA Fiscal 2018 budget deficit (-$779 billion) rose by 17% to the highest level in six years according to the Trump Administration.

    Spending jumped but revenues rose only slightly following the Trump tax cut.

    US budget deficit expands to $779 billion in fiscal 2018 as spending surges

    A spike in defense spending, as well as increases for Medicaid, Social Security and disaster relief, contributed to the increase.

    Several independent analyses have estimated the GOP tax plan will cause budget deficits to grow dramatically over time, even after economic growth is taken into account.

    The Treasury noted that receipts related to "excise, customs and other" jumped to $35 billion in September 2018, a 35 percent increase over the prior-year period. It is unclear how much of that revenue relates to Trump's tariffs on imports from major trading partners.



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    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    As a European bystander, with a childhood in Singapore including six years attending the American School, I offer this comment and very personal opinion:


    Trump is an embarrassing character, but that doesn't mean all his actions are foolish or unwise. I would be the first to agree that he is not a "Statesman", and in that sense unfit for Presidency. To talk of dishonesty, in connection with politicians (especially high-ranking) is just not interesting: They all manipulate, distort and lie about important facts to make them suit their agenda. Perhaps Trump is worse at covering his lies up, but that doesn't make him the first dishonest politician.


    My best suggestion is to vote for someone better next time. If the Democrats want that to happen, they themselves are responsible for putting forth a better candidate. They failed miserably last time, so hopefully they will have learned not to alienate large groups of voters, but instead practice the "tolerance" and "inclusion" that they preach.



    Viewing from outside, the Democrat or Republican polarization seems very undemocratic. In Europe, most countries have more political parties to choose from and voters can find a better fit for their particular beliefs. Admittedly, even here in Denmark, the role of Prime Minister is often a race between only two candidates, but their foundation is built upon support from other parties.

    I KNOW you have other parties and candidates in America, but the two large parties squash and ridicule them.

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