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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?


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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    I hate articles like this.

    What exactly was the back-drop light that allowed them to take this picture? What light could possibly be BIGGER than the SBH being filmed?

    Or is the disk itself the light (the one they mentioned). And if so, why is that disk only on one side of the black hole--the side further from us? I don't ever see pics of such a disk when it's NOT on the other side of a hole. Like, are there any pics of one on top of it or under it?

    I remain skeptical.

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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Quote Originally Posted by 20 year tech View Post
    Thanks for the PIC.....

    Scientists: Blackholes are intense gravity fields that absorb all light.
    Layman: Wow!... a Blackhole giving off pretty yellow glowing light.
    Confused: ....?.....
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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Quote Originally Posted by 20 year tech View Post
    The Black Hole science topic made it onto our local TV evening news.

    The more I look at the image the more I see a black body in transition. The black body appears to be in transition/slowly spinning up plasma to create a new star or sun. As a black body comes into contact with a "centralized" magnetic field it will form eddy currents around its huge circumference and start to produce what we know as sunlight. Sun systems do not burn material as fuel,they produce plasma cosmic ultra-rays in the em-spectrum.

    If these scientist are correct this black body is one huge size chunk....

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    Cool Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    kind of like a cosmic cycle of life Neo ?

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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    I hate articles like this.

    What exactly was the back-drop light that allowed them to take this picture? What light could possibly be BIGGER than the SBH being filmed?

    Or is the disk itself the light (the one they mentioned). And if so, why is that disk only on one side of the black hole--the side further from us? I don't ever see pics of such a disk when it's NOT on the other side of a hole. Like, are there any pics of one on top of it or under it?

    I remain skeptical.
    The problem I have is they always state this stuff as fact. If this thing is really 55 million light years away how can anyone honestly say exactly what it is.
    And somehow they know the actual mass of this object from that far away? Unlikely.

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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMatrix View Post
    Thanks for the PIC.....

    Scientists: Blackholes are intense gravity fields that absorb all light.
    Layman: Wow!... a Blackhole giving off pretty yellow glowing light.
    Confused: ....?.....

    Anything past the event horizon cannot get back, including light..You are seeing light produced by the friction of swarming gasses. This light travelled towards us and was far enough away from the EH to make it to us 55 million years later. You also have to remember that this image of the Black Hole is not from the visible spectrum but from Xrays..These are produced by the surrounding accretion disk..I think if you were close enough to see the black hole using visible light it would probably look quite different, maybe even completely obscured by the glowing gasses that surround it..Still visible light must act pretty weird when it is getting close to the point of no return..I read that if you were orbiting the black hole right at the EH, you would pass photons of yourself as you circled..Another interesting oddity is from the observer watching something fall into a black hole, you would never actually see it fall, just sit there suspended as the light became unable to move away..

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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Do the gasses that glow actually surround it?? If so, we shouldn't see the blackhole. Because the gasses in front of it would still reach us. Thus, we would just see what looks like another star.

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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Black holes rotate, everything around them rotates with the black hole. These rotational forces force everything into a spinning acreation disk (think rings of Saturn). All that gas/dust/cosmic junk gets superheated as it moves into close proximity of the accretion disk. This super heated gas sends out xrays..This is what the EH telescope is seeing, not visible light.

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    Re: Any stargazers out there...?

    Quote Originally Posted by emujo2 View Post
    Black holes rotate, everything around them rotates with the black hole. These rotational forces force everything into a spinning acreation disk (think rings of Saturn). All that gas/dust/cosmic junk gets superheated as it moves into close proximity of the accretion disk. This super heated gas sends out xrays..This is what the EH telescope is seeing, not visible light.
    Why would the rings of gas be getting hot in the zero temperature vacuum of space?

    Why are Saturns rings of rock and ice distributed in density rings only around Saturns equator.

    Why aren't the rock and ice rings of saturn melting if the sun is hot?

    Heat does not radiate in the vacuum of outer space.
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