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    Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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    If there is one American institution that I believe in it is NASA. They conclude that the earth's climate is warming and likely due to human activities.

    "Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position."

    The 97 % that you quoted is extremely misleading ,academically dishonest and dangerous. For example, if the scientific journals are only receptive to those that believe warming is due to human activates, then they will only publish supporting scientists.
    Are you saying that the author, NASA, the National Aeronautics & Space Administration, "is extremely misleading, academically dishonest and dangerous"?




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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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    Allowing hatred to rule give rise to cowardly groups like the KKK and white supremacists.
    I think I'm hijacking the thread... I'll continue on a fresh one:

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    I think anyone with a semblance of intelligence and compassion knows what "hatred" is. To hate a person just because their skin is a different colour, or because they worship a different "God" than you is ridiculous and pointless.
    Sorry but you really didn't answer the full question.


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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post

    Are you saying that the author, NASA, the National Aeronautics & Space Administration, "is extremely misleading, academically dishonest and dangerous"?

    I am referring to your specific cut and paste quote about the 97% figure....Not NASA.


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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    1st paragraph.



    https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

    I can only guess that the reason that 97% of the scientific journals support the climate change theory is that before they can be published they have to be peer reviewed.

    Individual theories and special interest groups supported by political or corporate money usually cannot meet this test to become scientifically published.

    Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 09-09-2017 at 08:43 PM.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    A survey of 1,600 Americans in 2016 concluded:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/05/s...=tw-share&_r=1


    Americans are deeply divided on the causes, cures and urgency of climate change, and party identification is one of the strongest predictors of individual views, according to a poll released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center.

    Just over a third of Americans say they care a great deal about climate change. Among them, 72 percent are Democrats and 24 percent are Republicans; both numbers include independents who say they generally lean toward one party.

    On other questions on climate change, Americans remain starkly divided: Nearly seven of 10 Democrats believe climate change is mainly a result of human activity; fewer than a quarter of Republicans believe that. A similarly worded question that appeared on surveys from 2006 to 2015 found comparable gaps on the perceived causes of climate change.

    According to some scientists who study public perceptions of climate change, the United States is unusual in its relatively low level of public interest and engagement. In a poll conducted last year, around the time that world leaders gathered in Paris to negotiate a climate agreement, Pew found that among the 40 countries surveyed, a median of 54 percent of people considered climate change a serious problem. Among Americans, the figure was 45 percent, that poll found.

    The new survey did find areas in which Americans agree across party lines. More than 80 percent, including wide majorities of Democrats, Republicans and independents, favor expansion of the solar and wind industries. About two-thirds of Americans say that climate scientists should play a major role in policy decisions related to climate change.




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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    Quote Originally Posted by SalesServiceGuy View Post
    I can only guess that the reason that 97% of the scientific journals support the climate change theory is that before they can be published they have to be peer reviewed.

    Individual theories and special interest groups supported by political or corporate money usually cannot meet this test to become scientifically published.
    And you don't think that those doing the peer reviews are not motivated by political and corporate money. I have seen global warming alarmists claim that the "unprecedented" three hurricanes in the Atlantic basin is a definite sign that they are the result of global warming. They need to guess again. There is nothing unprecedented about three hurricanes in the Atlantic basin. You only have to look back seven years to prove them wrong.




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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    The following list of groups plus NASA state that climate change is the result of human activity:

    American Medical Association
    American Chemical Society
    American Geophysical Union
    American Association for the Advancement of Science
    American Meteorological Society
    American Physical Society
    The Geological Society of America
    US National Academy of Science

    Plus here is a list of nearly 200 other scientific organization around the world that hold the position that climate change has been caused by human activity.


    List of Worldwide Scientific Organizations - Office of Planning and Research

    I you have any evidence that any of these organizations were influenced by political or corporate donations in making their determination that climate change is the result of human activity, please let us all know.

    I did do a Google search on "are peer reviews influenced by money" and yes there are certainly many articles that suggests especially among academic topics that both bias and money could be a factor.

    I appreciate your map from 2010 showing there were three hurricanes present in the same time in the Atlantic Basin.

    Hurricane Karl was a Cat 3 storm and caused $5.6B damage to mostly Mexico
    Hurricane Igor was a Cat 4 storm and caused $200M damage to Newfoundland, Canada
    Hurricane Julia was a Cat 4 storm but caused minimal damage as it never posed a threat to land.

    The problem is as the ocean keeps getting warmer due to global warming, the frequency and intensity of these hurricanes can only increase.

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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    A little non PC fact.. In a recent interview, on a national radio program of a renowned geoscientist revealed that many climatologists believe hurricane intensity , in recent years has increased due to cleaner air...So it seems stronger, deadlier storms are a byproduct of reduced car , industrial emissions and coal fired power plants...ironic ehh..


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    Re: Do you believe that Climate Change is real and caused by mankind?

    This is a list of scientists who have made statements that conflict with the scientific consensus on global warming as summarized by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and endorsed by other scientific bodies. The great majority of publishing climate scientists support the consensus on anthropogenic climate change, hence this list represents a minority viewpoint.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scienti fic_assessment_of_global_warming







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