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    GTN is a global website that invites comments from all over the world. US citizens might elect to accept commentary from outside their comfort zones to appreciate how the rest of the world perceives the USA.

    In many ways, President Trump with his nationalist America first policies degrades the perception of the USA. His moves threatens some countries like Canada and Mexico while emboldening other countries like China and Russia to move into spaces from which the USA seems to be retreating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    No worries it's coming

    Chris said he was very concerned about whether this
    19 represented a national security threat and said he
    20 wanted to -- he said he thought we were obligated
    21 to tell someone in government, in our government
    22 about this information. He thought from his
    23 perspective there was an issue -- a security issue
    24 about whether a presidential candidate was being
    25 blackmailed. From my perspective there was a law


    1 enforcement issue about whether there was an
    2 illegal conspiracy to violate the campaign laws,
    3 and then somewhere in this time the whole issue of
    4 hacking has also surfaced.

    https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/use...RxhPyyj7K6M/v0
    So the bottom line is..you have no proof or evidence...All you have are excerpts
    from an interview of a person hired by Clinton campaign to produce dirt on Trump real or imagined....Not exactly a unbiased independent report..Ehh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
    So the bottom line is..you have no proof or evidence...All you have are excerpts
    from an interview of a person hired by Clinton campaign to produce dirt on Trump real or imagined....Not exactly a unbiased independent report..Ehh.

    It's coming SOON only preview, That's what the FBI is doing NOW. Like I have access to classified government information. Still waiting for the release transcript of M Flynn with the Russian Ambassador you know the one he lied to the FBI about and plead guilty. Most likely the public will never see the REAL Proof as it would reveal to much about how we get the information from the Russians as to just how good we are at counterintelligence.

    Don't think I would call testimony to Congress no proof or evidence

    Section 1001 makes it a crime to make any materially false,
    fictitious, or fraudulent statement or
    representation in the course of a congressional


    investigation. That statute applies to your
    statements in this interview.

    Witnesses who knowingly provide
    false statements could be subject to criminal
    prosecution and imprisonment for up to five years.

    PS the link is to the entire Fusion GPS transcript full read
    https://assets.bwbx.io/documents/use...RxhPyyj7K6M/v0

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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    I don't believe any politician cares about anything other than obtaining money and power. Fortunately, our president is not a politician... which is why his supporters support him. And it's why I'd take his word over anyone else's in Washington. Certainly over Crooked Hilary's.
    what he said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    I don't believe any politician cares about anything other than obtaining money and power. Fortunately, our president is not a politician... which is why his supporters support him. And it's why I'd take his word over anyone else's in Washington. Certainly over Crooked Hilary's.
    Saying trump isn't a politician is like saying a duck isn't a bird. He is in politics, so he is a politician. So far he has taken healthcare away from the most vulnerable and given permanent tax breaks to his rich peers. That makes him a politician!

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    He hasn't taken healthcare away from anyone. For all those who think Obamacare is healthcare, try living on it for a few months. Watch your paycheck disappear, and still have to pay for the doctor visits. Obamacare is a sham, and we've finally got a president with enough gonads to call it what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    Saying trump isn't a politician is like saying a duck isn't a bird. He is in politics, so he is a politician. So far he has taken healthcare away from the most vulnerable and given permanent tax breaks to his rich peers. That makes him a politician!
    Sorry but when taken before the Supreme Court the so called Affordable Healthcare Act was defended not as a healthcare bill but as a tax package. From that bastion of right wing rhetoric here is a report about the ruling and the arguments made before the court.
    What the Supreme Court ruled on health care 'tax' - CNNPolitics

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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    He hasn't taken healthcare away from anyone. For all those who think Obamacare is healthcare, try living on it for a few months. Watch your paycheck disappear, and still have to pay for the doctor visits. Obamacare is a sham, and we've finally got a president with enough gonads to call it what it is.

    EL WRONGO Obamacare is GREAT my 3rd year on it . Without it could not get Health Insurance. Once again this Thread is about RUSSIAN Hacking the DNC email.
    Start your own Thread on your KING.
    Last edited by bsm2; 01-11-2018 at 01:36 AM.

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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    The US will not be prepared to defend against possible Russian meddling in the 2018 midterm elections or the 2020 Presidential contest unless it takes action now, according to a new report released today detailing the extent to which Moscow has tried to shape elections across Europe.

    https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/m...oc/FinalRR.pdf

    The report details Russia's arsenal of military invasions, disinformation campaigns, corruption and its weapon-ization of energy resources. The report demonstrates how Moscow's attacks have intensified in scale and complexity hitting Britain, Germany, France as well as the Ukraine and other smaller countries.

    The report released by Senator Ben Cardin (D) Maryland draws from the European experience to outline ways in which Russia's"malign influence operations" can be deterred.

    Titled "Putin's Asymmetrical Assault on Democracy in Russia and Europe: Implications for US National Security" it was research and written by Cadin staff members who interviewed European ambassadors in the US and traveled to Europe to talk to gov't officials, NGOs and media groups about Russian interference in their countries.

    The report warns that unless the US acts to counter the threat soon, Moscow will only grow more aggressive. The report adds a crucial caveat, given President Trump's repeated refusal to acknowledge US intelligence assessments that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

    "Trump has been negligent", the report says.

    "Without leadership from the President, any attempt to marshal such a response will be inherently weakened at the outset," it says. "President Trump has been negligent in acknowledging and responding to the threat to US national security posed by [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's meddling."
    Cardin, speaking at the German Marshall Fund on Wednesday, said that, "we don't have a President yet to fully acknowledge what Russia did to the United States in the elections. When you have that ambiguity, you don't have the consistency, you don't have all the strategy to protect the country [coming] from the President."
    "That," Cardin said, "compromises our national security."
    The administration pushed back hard. "We are happy that Congress agrees with our Intelligence Community's assessment regarding the Russian threat," the National Security Council said in a statement. "This Administration has no higher priority than protecting the national security and public safety of the United States. Some of our efforts will be seen and some will not, but there will most certainly be consequences for those who seek to interfere with our elections. We look forward to Congress's participation while continuing the Administration's steadfast efforts to counter Russian malign activities and protect future elections."

    The report calls for Trump to establish a high-level inter-agency group to coordinate US policy in response to the Russian government's operations. It also calls on the President to present Congress with a comprehensive strategy that deals with all aspects of Russia's disruptive tactics.

    Cardin is releasing the report as FBI and congressional probes into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia continue and relations between Washington and Moscow have entered a deep chill, despite Trump's oft-stated desire for a closer relationship with Russia and Putin.

    The report comes a few weeks before a deadline for the administration to announce secondary sanctions against companies and individuals who do business with Russian intelligence and military entities. The State Department missed its first deadline on those sanctions, and lawmakers are watching closely to see whether the administration complies promptly.

    "If the United States fails to work with urgency to address this complex and growing threat, the regime in Moscow will become further emboldened," the report says. "It will continue to develop and refine its arsenal to use on democracies around the world, including against US elections in 2018 and 2020."

    US must act now to ward off more Russian election meddling, report says - CNNPolitics

    Cardin said the so-called "minority report" wasn't written with Republicans because they had other priorities when his staff started researching last January and February but that it had a lot of Republican input. "Our report is not partisan — at all," he said.
    "We kept them engaged and informed as we went through the process," Cardin said. "So this is not an effort to exclude one party. In fact, much of what is in this report was with the assistance of Republican members."















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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Are Europeans really that stupid... that they can't withstand "disinformation?"

    Anyone who claims Obamacare is great, isn't on it. Someone is not being honest.

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