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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    I guess in simplest terms, socialism uses money and true communism doesn't.
    But nobody wants either true socialism or communism. All people want is to be able to live without worrying that the next time they get sick or lose their jobs they won't have to live on the street
    That's not really a difference... or an issue. People always try to act as if there's some sort of Utopian form of communism that hasn't been tried. But since people will always be people, I submit that communism has been tried, over and over again; and has failed, over and over again. The way it was tried in Russia and Venezuela and Cuba is exactly the way it is supposed to work--and they're all colossal failures.

    Anyway, what you're really saying is that people want to know that, if they choose, they can live off other people's work. Such a system pops up here and there under different names, but it's always the same, at its core. In my opinion, the very best system, where the most people have a chance to prosper, is capitalism. It works. The fact that sometimes bad things happen to good people is not a reason to abandon the most successful economic system in history.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by bsm2 View Post
    NO FACTS? Collusion with Russia isn't a CRIME? WTF Dude Lookup Benedict Arnold the Most Famous traitor until NOW!
    But supporters of President Donald Trump probably shouldn’t take the near impossibility of a treason charge as a sign the president and his team are in the clear. A variety of other statutes could come into play.


    Among them are campaign finance laws that prohibit foreign involvement in federal elections, he said, as well as broader anti-corruption laws that prohibit offering a benefit in return for election assistance.

    Plus that's only part one once the IRS gets into all that illegal Russia Money charges for money laundering it's PRISON TIME.
    That's kind of triggering a memory, somewhere deep in my skull. Some sort of quote like: "After my election I have more flexibility"


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    That's not really a difference... or an issue. People always try to act as if there's some sort of Utopian form of communism that hasn't been tried. But since people will always be people, I submit that communism has been tried, over and over again; and has failed, over and over again. The way it was tried in Russia and Venezuela and Cuba is exactly the way it is supposed to work--and they're all colossal failures.

    Anyway, what you're really saying is that people want to know that, if they choose, they can live off other people's work. Such a system pops up here and there under different names, but it's always the same, at its core. In my opinion, the very best system, where the most people have a chance to prosper, is capitalism. It works. The fact that sometimes bad things happen to good people is not a reason to abandon the most successful economic system in history.
    You seem to be fixated on communism for some reason. Nobody wants communism!!
    I don't understand why someone is willing to pay twice as much for something just because they can't stand the thought of maybe some of their tax money going to help someone less fortunate. And before you lose your mind, yes I am aware that some people abuse the system, but they are not as abundant as you think.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Again--no matter what you call it, it's still communism. Issue by issue, communism, socialism, and liberalism (defined by what the left in America are constantly pushing for) are all the same. I prefer to call it communism, because I don't like euphemisms. I like to call a spade a spade.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Also, I never spoke of people who abuse the system. I'm more worried about the people that the system abuses. We wouldn't have nearly as much poverty in America if the welfare system had stayed out of people's lives.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    Again--no matter what you call it, it's still communism. Issue by issue, communism, socialism, and liberalism (defined by what the left in America are constantly pushing for) are all the same. I prefer to call it communism, because I don't like euphemisms. I like to call a spade a spade.
    You can say it as often and as loud as you want the three ideologies you mentioned are NOT the same. Saying it doesn't make it true. Do some research.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by copier addict View Post
    You can say it as often and as loud as you want the three ideologies you mentioned are NOT the same. Saying it doesn't make it true. Do some research.
    Again: Where do they differ in specific issues?

    In other words, in an issue such as healthcare, how would communism differ from socialism, in it's practice?

    In a socialistic society, the spending of money and the making of money are not free, just as in communism. It doesn't really matter WHO controls it, what matters is that a doctor cannot decide to charge the prices he wants to the customers he wants and be paid according to what he charges. We could demonstrate hundreds of ways to accomplish this, and give such systems different names, but in the end, the doctor is not free to enter into commerce as he sees fit. The market does not decide his fate--someone or something else does.

    The reason such systems fail, over and over again, is because the doctor has no reason to become a better doctor. He has no reason to innovate and find new ways to answer old problems. All doctors in such systems are kept on the same, level field, because it would be 'unfair' to allow a different class of clients to receive a different level of care.

    All the leftist philosophies are just new names for the same systems. And they all punish innovation and hard work.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    Again: Where do they differ in specific issues?

    In other words, in an issue such as healthcare, how would communism differ from socialism, in it's practice?

    In a socialistic society, the spending of money and the making of money are not free, just as in communism. It doesn't really matter WHO controls it, what matters is that a doctor cannot decide to charge the prices he wants to the customers he wants and be paid according to what he charges. We could demonstrate hundreds of ways to accomplish this, and give such systems different names, but in the end, the doctor is not free to enter into commerce as he sees fit. The market does not decide his fate--someone or something else does.

    The reason such systems fail, over and over again, is because the doctor has no reason to become a better doctor. He has no reason to innovate and find new ways to answer old problems. All doctors in such systems are kept on the same, level field, because it would be 'unfair' to allow a different class of clients to receive a different level of care.

    All the leftist philosophies are just new names for the same systems. And they all punish innovation and hard work.
    You really need to do more research. Specialists make more money than a GP here. There is definitely an incentive to become a better Dr.
    Really, stop believing all the right wing BS.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Yes, but one GP does not make more money than another GP... not based on performance, anyway.


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    Re: How Russia hacked the Democrats email

    Quote Originally Posted by theengel View Post
    Yes, but one GP does not make more money than another GP... not based on performance, anyway.
    The amount of money a GP makes is dependent upon how many patients he/she has. So, yes it is based on performance. Again, research.


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