Rise Of Technology

[Phil B.]

Phil raises a valid point.
Do we use AI to issue crayons and colouring books to those who express their free will once,twice or 100 times before big AI brother steps in?
-= If there are people with emotional problems and ill heath. Do those people get AI to sue the whole world every time they get upset? =-
The AI topic is open for interpretation from either end of the spectrum.

ah but do you remember Star Trek : TNG? Data = Android w/ feelings et al.

WHAT IF society deems them " sanctioned" and then they turn around and become cop/judge/jury/executioner?

yes I brought "SCI-Fi" into the picture... but frankly ..31 yrs in THIS industry ( PCs before ) I have seen some INCREDIBLE advances... and I'm not really in the " high tech " industry ( 3D printing is cool tho ) but sometimes I read the " innovation " mags... and talk w/ a pal that is in cybersecurity crap... and .... just makes this old fart go "DAMN! WOW! hmmmmmmmm "

[NeoMatrix]

ah but do you remember Star Trek : TNG? Data = Android w/ feelings et al.
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Re: StarTrek :
The Android call "Data" in the StarTrek series bring to mind a valid point.

As I believe the android Data has no bodily nervous system.
Without a central nervous system a robotic Android could not have emotional responsive feelings.
A robotic Android could analyse a cognitive pattern and deduce that the pattern as logical match to a human emotion.
If the robotic Android determines the cognitive human pattern is "anger", does Android draw his laser weapon an terminate the human subject?
Judge,jury and executioner from the stand point of an AI machine. What happens if the AI machine was faulty...?

Who gets to determine/program which human emotion or state of mind "AI Pattern" is positive ,negative or ready to terminate?

[NeoMatrix]

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They can digitize movements and superimpose CGI images over top the movement and make it look like the actual person walking/running/jumping...

I've been vocal about the above CGI for years.
The fact that Facebook, Google and other info-companies have free access to peoples personal photos, and are legally allowed to use those photos in advertisements is a worry. When subscribing to the info-companies you give up your rights, an allow the info companies to use your personal photos.

What is to prevent the info companies from using your childs or spouses photos in soft or hard core porn adverts, and worse? There are plenty of vocal complains on the internet with a persons face superimposed on celebrity's naked body and visa versa. What is to prevent a person manipulating a CGI photo and placing that person hanging out of an animal (bestiality)? People are quick to believe that everything is as they see it...

Why do people only ever rememeber the bad deeds of others, instead of all their positive attributes?

[Phil B.]

I've been vocal about the above CGI for years.
The fact that Facebook, Google and other info-companies have free access to peoples personal photos, and are legally allowed to use those photos in advertisements is a worry. When subscribing to the info-companies you give up your rights, an allow the info companies to use your personal photos.

What is to prevent the info companies from using your childs or spouses photos in soft or hard core porn adverts, and worse? There are plenty of vocal complains on the internet with a persons face superimposed on celebrity's naked body and visa versa. What is to prevent a person manipulating a CGI photo and placing that person hanging out of an animal (bestiality)? People are quick to believe that everything is as they see it...

Why do people only ever rememeber the bad deeds of others, instead of all their positive attributes?

people only remember things about others due to their own issues/problems. Look at life Johnny blames Todd for stealing his phone... but in reality ... it was tommy's phone that Johnny stole.

i on the other hand try to look at the bright/good side of a situation.... but even then I can't help forget how that person screwed me over.. and that makes it harder to trust people. There are snakes in every yard.... but just be aware if they are poisonous or not.

[guitar9199]

yup the old command line editor ...

I remember when having a 20 MEG HDD and 640 K of RAM was a big deal!! You didn't need a "Boot Disk" to bring your IBM 8088 Computer up!!

Dual 5 1/2" floppy disk drives.... Green screen monochrome CRT monitor... 9 pin Dot matrix printer!! yeah BUDDY!!

...I also remember Punch Cards and Punch Tape too....

Can't remember what I had for lunch, but I can remember THIS junk!

[Phil B.]

I remember when having a 20 MEG HDD and 640 K of RAM was a big deal!! You didn't need a "Boot Disk" to bring your IBM 8088 Computer up!!
Dual 5 1/2" floppy disk drives.... Green screen monochrome CRT monitor... 9 pin Dot matrix printer!! yeah BUDDY!!
...I also remember Punch Cards and Punch Tape too....
Can't remember what I had for lunch, but I can remember THIS junk!

my 1st was an IBM PCJr floppies (2) 64k RAM but I did have color monitors.

Dad used to bring home old punch cards... we used some to make a Christmas Wreath in Cub Scouts. ( still have it somewhere ;-) )


lunch was a ham sammich and some fruit salad ( later to make DOC happy )
but last nite I did have A Steak - Tater w/ SC and chives - green beans and 3 BEERS!

[Lance15]

As I believe the android Data has no bodily nervous system.

-- I'm sure that could be fixed with a firmware update.
-- I'm sure they could 3D print one.

my 1st was an IBM PCJr floppies (2) 64k RAM but I did have color monitors.

-- My first computer was a Commodore 64 with one floppy drive
-- My first "IBM Compatible" computer was a Kaypro with a 20meg HDD (can't remember if it was MFM or RLL) and EGA graphics. It had a switch (on an add-in card) that you could switch the PC's speed between 4 and 8 MHz.....yes MEGAHERTZ.


Good times!!

[Geo]

I have everyone beat...My first was a 8088 TURBO..WOO BABY.....,,,,Damn I'm old...

[ZOOTECH]

Well, I never used an 'abacus', but the slide rule was used, because the hand held calculator had not hit the market yet. The 'core memory' and the hugh Bus and Tag cables for the main frame were seen everyday. I was trained on the CIC, and the Memorex tape drives; and a control unit that had a 6 platter 10 or 12 inch HDD. Entering commands via a two bank of four switches; cannot remember that control unit.

[roho]

I've been vocal about the above CGI for years.
The fact that Facebook, Google and other info-companies have free access to peoples personal photos, and are legally allowed to use those photos in advertisements is a worry. When subscribing to the info-companies you give up your rights, an allow the info companies to use your personal photos.

What is to prevent the info companies from using your childs or spouses photos in soft or hard core porn adverts, and worse? There are plenty of vocal complains on the internet with a persons face superimposed on celebrity's naked body and visa versa. What is to prevent a person manipulating a CGI photo and placing that person hanging out of an animal (bestiality)? People are quick to believe that everything is as they see it...

Why do people only ever rememeber the bad deeds of others, instead of all their positive attributes?

I have read of a few instances where photos from social media were then used in ads, dating etc. without the person knowing. They or someone they know have stumbled along it. I think a photo of a child was also used for some ad about toys or something.

Not a fan of modern technology, I think there will be a day of reckoning somehow. Too much of our daily lives and infrastructure are based around modern technology not ever failing. I see the benefits with medical breakthroughs, but the willy nilly way all this stuff is tossed in a heap leads to so much waste and redundancy. I had a old printer/scanner worked fine until it was time to upgrade my PC and the device was no longer supported. The company spent more time and money developing a new product to sell instead of developing support for a existing and working product. I see how it advantages the manufacturer, more sales, but think of all the waste of resources. Think of every industry where this is the case.

Modern techno is supposed to be more efficient, but at a huge cost most people including CEO's do not consider or even seem aware of.