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    Don't panic with jamming next week. 99% of schools leave paper in their machines ALL summer. It's so damp you could wring it out and drink from it


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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Quote Originally Posted by JR2ALTA View Post
    Don't panic with jamming next week. 99% of schools leave paper in their machines ALL summer. It's so damp you could wring it out and drink from it
    I find that interesting. 99% of the schools I am familiar with never keep paper in their copiers. The teachers have to supply their own paper. Some schools do supply each teacher with one ream. Once they have used that, if they need more it comes out of their own pocket.


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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Quote Originally Posted by slimslob View Post
    I find that interesting. 99% of the schools I am familiar with never keep paper in their copiers. The teachers have to supply their own paper. Some schools do supply each teacher with one ream. Once they have used that, if they need more it comes out of their own pocket.
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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Quote Originally Posted by JR2ALTA View Post
    Don't panic with jamming next week. 99% of schools leave paper in their machines ALL summer. It's so damp you could wring it out and drink from it
    You must be a UK tech?

    I'm with you on this one, its been quiet all summer no traffic on the roads, next week all hell breaks loose!

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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Jip know the feeling. Imagine all your schools have KM B601 machines!

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    Re: Paper in school machines

    We run into both here, paper that had been sitting in the machine all summer, yes there will be a lot of calls for that, and teachers carrying their paper to the machines. The machines were not really designed to have paper loaded and unloaded for each and every use, we see a lot of things being broken/worn out that you would never see in a print shop. A lot of the teachers are not machine friendly people.


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    Re: Paper in school machines

    "jamming, huh? ... I wonder why?

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    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.


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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    "jamming, huh? ... I wonder why?

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    Yep, that's the way it was coming out of the Lexmark last week. Old Army trick... store paper in a metal cabinet, get a trouble light, like you use to work on cars, and a 40 watt bulb. Makes a paper incubator. Keeps paper dry and crisp.

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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    "jamming, huh? ... I wonder why?

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    For some reason it's difficult explaining to and having educator's and administration understand and believe why paper becomes damp and it's effect ...

    Last edited by Geo; 09-03-2018 at 02:51 AM.

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    Re: Paper in school machines

    Quote Originally Posted by Geo View Post
    For some reason it's difficult explaining to and having educator's and administration understand and believe why paper becomes damp and it's effect ...
    Oh yes I remember well a certain restaurant that had a small desktop copier. They had an office next to the kitchen where they had the copier. Of course there were three steam kettle soup systems within fifteen feet of the door and the copier. I took paper with me and showed them how fresh dry paper made better copies and did not curl as badly as theirs did. So bad at times the exit sensor flag was not touched by the paper, Yes the copies were so curled they actually would roll up into a complete tube at times. Eventually they did move the machine out of that location and viola their calls for paper jams went to zero and even they noticed the copy quality improved.
    Then three years later ran into the same type of problem at a school where the teacher work room and cafeteria kitchen were next door to each other and actually had double doors between them. They had a fifty cpm Kyocera with a large capacity tray machine and just could not seem to understand why the machine made the paper curl like it did. Especially when the same model machine in the main office didn't. Actually had the vice principle follow me when I took paper out of the teacher copier and put it in the "working machine" and it curled and jammed within five pages. Took paper from their office and she followed me back to the teacher work room where I ran off a 50 page job a teacher needed as a test with paper from the main office. Two minutes later put the original paper back into the teacher work room machine and it jammed within ten pages.
    Eventually the teacher work room was moved to a better location and paper jam calls disappeared.


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