Which copier was the biggest piece of crap ever?

**LB-NS-TECH** · 09-15-2022

Originally Posted by Travis06

E-studio 3511 / 4511

To Travis06: Have you ever had to replace the main drive belt on the e-Studio 3511/4511? That is a real nightmare! Takes a long time, too.

**ianstevens44** · 11-01-2023

There were so many shitters out there. My old boss used to buy up the cheapest crap from the trade and sell them off on a 5 year lease and I would have the job of trying to pacify the poor customers whose machines would be lucky to last a week. One of my most hated was the Canon NP6521 affectionately known as the board blower. I was installing one once and had a mental CQ issue that suddenly occurred on demo and ended up having to strip it to its bear bones which didn't overly impress the customer lol. I also enjoyed working on the Tosh BD8412. It was never embarrassing at all asking the customer to help you lift the dirty great pile of shit off it's duplex as it sat underneath the machine and there was no other way to get to it. Panacronics with their rubber transfer belts, Canon NP4540 used to have to change the drums every month as they speckled up with hard toner I think due to the internal heat blanket but never really did get to the bottom of that issue.

**Hansen88** · 11-01-2023

Originally Posted by rspicer

I've worked on plenty of crap machines during my 25 years in this business. When I was a Lanier tech back in the mid 90s, there was a Panasonic in their line that was horrible to work on. I don't remember the model number. Then, when I started on the Toshiba analogs, the 1550 ate everybody's lunch. Their first attempts at digital were miserable too. I hated anything with a model number starting with DP. The e-studio line was not bad, maybe because I had gotten used to Toshibas by then. The worst thing they ever did though, was the Toshiba-Oki hybrid from Hell. The e407CS color and e477S b/w series are service nightmares. Doc feeds with cheap gears that don't mesh well, drums and fusers that never reach their expected life, and any other thing that needs to be replaced takes half a day to get to it.

I felt the opposite, we had a lot of DP models out and for the most part they ran ok. The main problem was the duplex drawer was terrible. We had not good luck with the e studio models. Still overall toshiba was the worst brand of the ones I have worked on.