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    Geek Extraordinaire 2,500+ Posts KenB's Avatar
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    Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    It seems to me that our bi-weekly service meetings are now focused on policies and procedures, and how to raise sales.

    Not just sales of equipment, but service contracts, supplies, network support, yadda yadda.

    I remember when we actually used to discuss machine issues, new equipment, and general technology, rather than looking at PowerPoints and Excel spreadsheets of endless numbers.

    I know that the role of a tech is migrating to more of a consultant, but it seems that the technology has taken a back seat to gaining market share.

    I know that some of this is necessary, but it seems to be getting a bit much. We actually had a really talented tech quit - just because he didn't want to be a salesman.

    I'm all for turning in leads, just like we've always done, but the way I see it, as long as we keep the products running smoothly and keep a good relationship with our customers, the sales department should do their jobs.
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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    Ah! The good ole days...

    By bi-weekly, Ken, do you mean twice a week or every other week?

    I read somewhere that meetings are the largest business time waster there is.
    One might pop off with something like that, but this was a real study.
    They ought to be infrequent, brief, and to the point, the study suggested. They're somewhat of a necessary evil.

    Our recent meeting degraded, at one point, into a clash of personalities between two individuals, seeming to support the theory. (While awkward, in the public setting, it wasn't entirely unpredictable.)

    Field techs seem to suffer from a common dilema. Our work is largely solitary, so meetings, allowed to carry on too long, often fall to anecdotal "war stories" of mostly isolated cases not necessarly pertinent to day-to-day territory management. And, as there are often a number of "right ways" to do a thing, one can easily find themselves in a meeting with an argument simmering just below the surface.

    I've really come to believe that the occasional team meeting is the way to go. Half a dozen people, at most; preferably in the filed -- maybe early breakfast; strictly defined time frame and agenda, with no time for stories.

    I also like the occasional no-agenda breakfast meeting, but with defined time frame. It's a necessary outlet for our singular work.

    -I

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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    What the hell is a meeting???
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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    A meeting? It is a "tongue-lashing", reminding you when you screwed up in the previous 2 weeks or so. Sometimes, they feed the animals too!

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    Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    As the copier division is the smallest division of our organization, the copier portion is usually a brief mention or non-existent.

    If all the techs were to get to gather for an early breakfast on the road, it would be a normal day, and I'd be all by my lonesome.
    If there is some sort of purpose for such meetings I haven't figured it out yet. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    The best service meetings I've ever had were what we do now. The other service tech and I usually meet by our cars after work, have a smoke and discuss the day and upcoming work. These are the most productive work meeting I've ever had.

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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    Nowadays, with the economy as bad as it is, the shift of a lot of companies is to generate sales, try to keep margins up, and at the same time stay competitive. A lot of smaller service companies are simply no longer in business. At the same time some companies have acquired other companies and some of those clients have become larger service companies.

    I look at it this way. 1) Sales affects my job (whether I have one or not or whether I am going to continue having a 401K, for example), so it is important to hear how the company is doing and what they are planning to improve. 2) If they are talking about sales, they are not attacking your department.
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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    we try to have quick weekly meetings in the AM for around 30 minutes where we go over technical issues and any updates that come down from the manufacturers. We also go over all the positive feedback from the customers and fellow employees. We do not let the meetings get out of hand with sarcastic comments or let it turn into bitchfest.

    I do feel that as a tech though it is our responsibility to the customer and my company to report any opportunities or needs that my customers might have to help my company grow.
    Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    I take my techs to breakfast once a month and talk shop. Sales see technicians as "neccesary evil" and our meetings usually involve throwing more money into sales by taking it from the service department.
    Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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    Re: Have your service meetings become sales meetings?

    Our meetings to discuss machines are walking in the shop in the morning or walking out in the afternoon.

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