worst paper ever.

[fixthecopier]

In 15 years I have only been able to prove it was the papers fault 3 times, and 1 was today. After putting fusers in an HP 9050 and 5550 that sit side by side, I made some test prints off of the 9050. All was going well. Then I heard that awful sound. The sound of wrinkleing paper going through the machine. It looked as though it had tried to go through the machine sideways. I opened the tray and saw about 10 sheets trying to go through the rollers at once. An inspection of the ream showed that the blade that cut it, was so dull it meshed or bound the paper together in bunches of 20 to 30 sheets. And to make it worse, it was being stored outside in a storage building, soaking up humidity. Prints that made it through, had terrible curl.

No big finish to this, I just thought it would only interest other people in the business.

[blackcat4866]

... An inspection of the ream showed that the blade that cut it, was so dull it meshed or bound the paper together in bunches of 20 to 30 sheets. And to make it worse, it was being stored outside in a storage building, soaking up humidity. Prints that made it through, had terrible curl ...

I've come across a few of those over the years. Most recently the company that was supplying our paper had a bad batch or two. That particular company always sold us the cheapest paper available. We bought three truckloads. Every twentieth sheet had a Z-fold and a wrinkle. That's 25 per ream, 250 per case ... all three truckloads. We had no shortage of paper for in-house work.

Before that, the paper they supplied was 216mm x 280.5mm. It doesn't sound like much of a difference does it? Except most Konica Minolta LCT's do not have a size adjustment for the width of letter paper. 1.5mm oversized caused jamming on every LCT.

What a bargain. =^..^=

[slimslob]

I've come across a few of those over the years. Most recently the company that was supplying our paper had a bad batch or two. That particular company always sold us the cheapest paper available. We bought three truckloads. Every twentieth sheet had a Z-fold and a wrinkle. That's 25 per ream, 250 per case ... all three truckloads. We had no shortage of paper for in-house work.

Before that, the paper they supplied was 216mm x 280.5mm. It doesn't sound like much of a difference does it? Except most Konica Minolta LCT's do not have a size adjustment for the width of letter paper. 1.5mm oversized caused jamming on every LCT.

What a bargain. =^..^=

I had encountered the Z-fold once. It was at the administration office of a hospital. It was only one ream, but the Z-fold was every 10 sheets. We were called because it was jamming.

[KenB]

• I had encountered the Z-fold once. It was at the administration office of a hospital. It was only one ream, but the Z-fold was every 10 sheets. We were called because it was jamming.

Similar situation here.

At one time we sold Canon "plain" paper, for their liquid machines.

We once had a few skids of it (all letter size) where every 6th sheet was cut about 1/2 inch short, so it measured only 8" wide.

Needless to say, it caused just a few jams.

[drwevil]

we get bad/damp paper all the time ..... fairly easy to prove just open a fresh ream....

but there are bad batches out there I've seen one that absorbs moisture like a sponge and turn slightly pink after its been through the copier.

Years ago there was a bad batch out of brazil that was confiscated by customs then sold off cheep. It wasn't 80gsm as on the wrapper, it would not feed out of the trays and from memory it wasn't even white more grey.

[NeoMatrix]

How does the erasable toner MFD from Toshiba pan out with it's questionable 5 times erasable/reusable paper ?
I would like to see if the paper can truly handle upto 5 write-erase recycles through the fuser unit.
Surely this model of machine must use chemical-bond or some sort of thermal paper to assist the erase of toner off the paper.

[theengel]

Seems like today's machines are a lot more forgiving than they used to be. I remember having paper calls just about every time it rained. Come to think of it though, I was working on a lot more wide format machines then.

I did have one customer who cut their own paper. We had told them over and over again that it wasn't going to work for them. Jams kept coming up because the paper wasn't exactly letter or legal.

[CompyTech]

I had a call once where machine was jamming from the LCT.. I opened the tray, and up on checking the reams, discovered half the reem was glued together on the sides. I think they got over zealous with the glue at the paper factory when installing the over wraps.

[gwaddle]

I've had a few over the years. Most notably, I drove 120 miles to a call for jamming in a fax machine. Sure enough it would jam on the first copy. Opened the drawer and found they had used some leftover tractor feed paper and had carefully torn off the sides, but didn't separate the sheets. Sent a big bill for mileage.

[JVergin]

"Quality" brand paper. I will say it by name because this is the worse paper I've had to deal with. Visually, it looks great! nice packaging, very little pitting, and very white. But looks can be deceiving.

In an MFP: While going through the fuser, the paper will not only have a MASSIVE curl, but will also twist, almost like the grain of the paper is at a 45 degree angle or something. This may not jam in a very basic model with no finisher where the exit tray it right outside of the fuser. If you have a finisher, are duplexing, or have a transport unit that takes the paper from the fuser to an exit tray, it will jam and it will jam often regardless of when they bought the paper, how its stored, or if they just opened the ream and put it in that day.

In a duplicator (Riso): The paper is very slick. Misfeeds AND multifeeds are almost a guarantee. IF the paper manages to get from the feed tray to the exit tray (a straight paper path), more than likely there will be so much static buildup between each sheet that 1 sheet can hold 7 others just with the static cling, which will be even more fun when trying to flip it over and print on the second side.

I found this paper at many many locations. Luckily, the customers were understanding and trusted my judgement. I haven't seen that paper for a few years though so hopefully the "Quality" brand went out of business.