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I luv how the threads on CTN digress....
Given a worst case scenerio like "Mad-Max" I don't believe we will be relying on dinosaur-p!ss ( oil ) or dinosaur-poop(coal) to keep us going. There is plenty of alternative energy systems out there.
During WWII we have hydrogen pipe throughout our city that feed the city for years. The same pipes feed natural gas now.
The hydrgen was cracked from water with a hot flame charcoal process. The hydrogen plant run by itself, as it had hydrogen motors to run the pumps for pressurizing the city supply.
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