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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by 813200217 View Post
    i live in indonesia
    about 3 years a go i bought 1 copier machine
    it's called Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    first, i thought the machine was good for business. i open a copier centre..
    after i used it for 3 months... I BECAME REALLY DISSAPOINTMENT
    the reason is:
    1. original toner is too expensive.
    2. the machine can not be used for heavy duty.
    3. poor service (no service at all)
    the salesman sold it then he left it.
    i got cheated by the salesman)
    4 i bought it about Rp 28.000.000, ($ 2.000).
    after half a year, i sold it to another person Rp 4.000.000 ($ 286)
    i lost a lot of money.

    Now, anyone using that product in my city became alert with that salesman
    no one trust him anymore..
    Stop whining! It's not forbidden to do some thinking yourself, even if you live Indonesia!

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    The MP 2000 were good machines, in fact, the newer entry-level B&W are mostly built off this model with some increased processing power and memory capacity. The fusers are easy to rebuild, have only a few issues with stripper pressure over time, and the UFRs can degrade with extensive above PM usage. The drum is easy to rebuild and does last past PM. We always replace drum, cleaning blade, charge, and dev together. Sometimes the dev gears do wear down, requiring a complete dev unit replacement. We used to have a lot of these machines out on construction sites, back in the day, until everyone wanted colour. Keep it clean, and replace at or just past PM, and it wil last for years.

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxxon View Post
    Stop whining! It's not forbidden to do some thinking yourself, even if you live Indonesia!

    my guess he won’t stop
    Live for yourself and you will live in vain. Live for others, and you will live again

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by bob marley View Post
    my guess he won’t stop
    We can watch and see.

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxxon View Post
    Stop whining! It's not forbidden to do some thinking yourself, even if you live Indonesia!
    Well if he wants to whine, he can to this. check it out.


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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by ruben View Post
    The MP 2000 were good machines, in fact, the newer entry-level B&W are mostly built off this model with some increased processing power and memory capacity. The fusers are easy to rebuild, have only a few issues with stripper pressure over time, and the UFRs can degrade with extensive above PM usage. The drum is easy to rebuild and does last past PM. We always replace drum, cleaning blade, charge, and dev together. Sometimes the dev gears do wear down, requiring a complete dev unit replacement. We used to have a lot of these machines out on construction sites, back in the day, until everyone wanted colour. Keep it clean, and replace at or just past PM, and it wil last for years.
    The machine is fine But not for at copier center, 1000 copies will take almost an hour...

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    Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxxon View Post
    The machine is fine But not for at copier center, 1000 copies will take almost an hour...
    Exactly! So even the smallest amount of common sense should have told the poster that the machine wouldn't be practical in his environment.

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Ahhhh this thread brings back memories of aaB1.............................................. .......
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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by ruben View Post
    The MP 2000 were good machines, in fact, the newer entry-level B&W are mostly built off this model with some increased processing power and memory capacity. The fusers are easy to rebuild, have only a few issues with stripper pressure over time, and the UFRs can degrade with extensive above PM usage. The drum is easy to rebuild and does last past PM. We always replace drum, cleaning blade, charge, and dev together. Sometimes the dev gears do wear down, requiring a complete dev unit replacement. We used to have a lot of these machines out on construction sites, back in the day, until everyone wanted colour. Keep it clean, and replace at or just past PM, and it wil last for years.
    and you still recommend this machines to copier centre business?

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    Re: Really Dissapointment using Gestetner MP 2000 L2

    Quote Originally Posted by 813200217 View Post
    and you still recommend this machines to copier centre business?
    come on mister. the guy has not said so, it is for you to decide. It does not matter if the machine can do 5 copies per minute cpm. You are supposed to arrange for a demo of the machine and see if it can do what you want. Copy centers are not all the same and your volume may be entirely different from another customer. I hope when you go to buy a car you test drive it before you make the purchase.
    There are many other things to consider when you purchase or lease a copier. If you are not sure what you getting into, then seek help and read the fine prints before you sign.

    a simple search on the internet brings up a lot of ideas. just google this below and see some results.


    how to buy a copier
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