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    MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    Quick question, have a customer wanting to do borderless printing on A3 booklets.
    We have selected the borderless pringing option but they get a tiny 2mm white edge on the bottom.

    Are Ricoh capable of “true” borderless?

    All tray registration etc are 100% as close as I can get.
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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    You'd be best doing SRA3 booklets and trimming them to size.
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    You have to leave some leading edge white space for the fuser or the paper will stick to it. Going to the edge of the sides and trailing edge is the best you'll likely get. Even the four color printing press we have doesn't do all four edges.

    I believe printing on oversize paper and then cutting to the desired size is the industry standard.

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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    You can use SP 2103-003 and 004 to adjust the left and right margin erase. DO NOT change the lead edge erase to less than 2mm or you WILL get fusing exit jams. If you are doing 2-sided, the same applies to the trail edge. It you are doing full bleed color, do not set to less than the default of 4.2mm.

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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    Cheers for the replies, this confirmed what I thought. Just strange having a borderless print option in the driver, I wondered if it was a new option with the 04 series especially as they now have the aditional decurling ass’y.

    I’ll suggest they use SRA3 & purchase a guillotine.
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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    You have to print on larger paper and cut it down

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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    Cheers for the replies, this confirmed what I thought. Just strange having a borderless print option in the driver, I wondered if it was a new option with the 04 series especially as they now have the aditional decurling ass’y.

    I’ll suggest they use SRA3 & purchase a guillotine.
    It just means that the driver itself is not going to add a border to the document.

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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    “Borderless Printing” is a misnomer, mis-leading, blah, blah...whatever you want to call it.

    ”Reduced Border” may be a better term.

    Unfortunately, too many people take the term literally, and assume that it means 100% borderless.

    As already mentioned several times, you need to print on a larger size and then “trim to taste”, if you will.
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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    Quote Originally Posted by copier tech View Post
    Cheers for the replies, this confirmed what I thought. Just strange having a borderless print option in the driver, I wondered if it was a new option with the 04 series especially as they now have the aditional decurling ass’y.

    I’ll suggest they use SRA3 & purchase a guillotine.
    You could always use the guillotine on the salesman who told them it would do true edge-to-edge.
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    Re: MPC4504ex Borderless printing

    Quote Originally Posted by KenB View Post
    You could always use the guillotine on the salesman who told them it would do true edge-to-edge.
    I’d love too! 🇫🇷
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