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    Trickle feed developer? Is the toner partially developer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomama46 View Post
    Trickle feed developer? Is the toner partially developer?
    Yup, 10% of each toner is developer. The theory is that as its continually renewing the dev the copy density remains even. Well that was the theory!
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    Any News on this??

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    I will be writing up a full report soon, however I can tell you that I have been watching these machines (the 2 moded ones) and neither of them have had any problem or call since! I also know that both of them have completed over 40k each. I will wait at least a month and then open up devs and have a look etc. I can tell you that quite a few of our other techs have performed this mod and we have seen no problems at all!! I am not going to say this is 100% cure BUT it does seem to work and has no drawbacks and is very easy to implment. Stay tuned.

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    TOP MAN!!

    Will be trying this on the 2 machines giving me trouble as soon as I can get to them!!

    Incidently, One thing that does cause all Ricoh colour machines to run slightly grey on B+W copies is the default original type setting of "text / photo" mode. changing this to "text" and locking as default will also give a 5% -ish increase in full black solids.

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    Ok here is the wrap up. I have visited both of my trial machines - which have both performed faultlessly (zero calls) for nearly 2 months. Both of these machines had serious issues and in one case the customer was demanding a new machine. To cut a long story short the mod seems to offer much improved reliability and stability of the devs. I opened up the colour devs and inspected the level of dev and unlike previously it was still where i would expect it to be, interestingly the only reason for this call was charge roller lines - the C/Q was still as strong as it was when I did the mod 63000 pages ago. This machine was going light in just 15k previous. The machine that has only the K dev modded has been transformed - from one that the cust wanted gone and call after call - to one that just had its first call in 2 months (once again cyan charge roller lines). The c/q was still exacly the same as the samples I took when I performed the mod.

    We have performed this mod on approx ten machines now and there has not been one that has shown any negative effects.

    So the conclusions I make are this 1; Ricoh has not got trickle feed development right in this model (not even close) 2; removing drive to the feed out auger significantly improved machine stability and reliability with no negative effects.

    Go for it.

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    This is really good info. Thanks for the feedback.

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    Thanks for the feedback. I will apply to mod on one machine next week so I will post feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbojetboy View Post
    Ok here is the wrap up. I have visited both of my trial machines - which have both performed faultlessly (zero calls) for nearly 2 months. Both of these machines had serious issues and in one case the customer was demanding a new machine. To cut a long story short the mod seems to offer much improved reliability and stability of the devs. I opened up the colour devs and inspected the level of dev and unlike previously it was still where i would expect it to be, interestingly the only reason for this call was charge roller lines - the C/Q was still as strong as it was when I did the mod 63000 pages ago. This machine was going light in just 15k previous. The machine that has only the K dev modded has been transformed - from one that the cust wanted gone and call after call - to one that just had its first call in 2 months (once again cyan charge roller lines). The c/q was still exacly the same as the samples I took when I performed the mod.

    We have performed this mod on approx ten machines now and there has not been one that has shown any negative effects.

    So the conclusions I make are this 1; Ricoh has not got trickle feed development right in this model (not even close) 2; removing drive to the feed out auger significantly improved machine stability and reliability with no negative effects.

    Go for it.
    Do us a favour and report this to Ricoh's tech support. They might issue an RTB with this information on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonerMunkeh View Post
    Do us a favour and report this to Ricoh's tech support. They might issue an RTB with this information on.
    haha, you're kidding, right?

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