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    AF-MP-C4500 Light prints (transfer loss)

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    AF-MP-C4500 Light prints (transfer loss)

    Yes the latent image is good/solid. And the transfer contacts are making ... contact. So which is most likely: transfer roller assembly, transfer HVT, or something else?
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Could be the belt itself. What happens when you crash stop the machine and take the belt unit out? Good image on it?
    It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

    Hit it.

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    Yes, I've got a good latent image. Less than 1/2 the image is transfered, probably by physical contact of the paper only.

    I've just been digging through the manual, and I found that it has a worm gear drive that positions the transfer roller. Since I have only rarely seen a completely bad transfer roller, I think that this transfer contact drive seems like a better suspect. Have you seen any trouble with these? Is it possible that in my investigations that I have mis-assembled the secondary transfer assembly such that it won't shift? I've found figure 46-16, B223 1199 paper transfer contact motor. Does that sound about right? The parts manual just describes it as "DC motor".
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    Last edited by blackcat4866; 04-01-2011 at 02:21 PM.
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
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    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

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    Hi there!
    We´v had a similar problem with a MPC 2500, changed transferband- NG, changed transfercleaningunit- slightly better & finally the transferroller ( it was only 10000 prints old) then it was good. Sorry, also cleaned the ID-sensors! The solution was obviously the roller.
    Greetings....

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    First of all you don't say if it is all colours or just the yellow is the transfer producing a banding effect ok then poor several times say over a A3 copy

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Yes, I've got a good latent image. Less than 1/2 the image is transfered, probably by physical contact of the paper only.

    I've just been digging through the manual, and I found that it has a worm gear drive that positions the transfer roller. Since I have only rarely seen a completely bad transfer roller, I think that this transfer contact drive seems like a better suspect. Have you seen any trouble with these? Is it possible that in my investigations that I have mis-assembled the secondary transfer assembly such that it won't shift? I've found figure 46-16, B223 1199 paper transfer contact motor. Does that sound about right? The parts manual just describes it as "DC motor".
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    I'm pretty sure that is where your problem lies. The color transfer rollers are cammed away from the pcu's in b/w mode, sounds like they're stuck. I would pull out the itb unit and manually rotate the mechanism in the rear of it and see if there is any binding and also do an output check on the contact motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jivedancer View Post
    First of all you don't say if it is all colours or just the yellow is the transfer producing a banding effect ok then poor several times say over a A3 copy
    It affects all colors equally. and my primary transfer belt image is good. It's not performing the secondary transfer.

    As of last Tuesday it's a moot point. The don't want to pay for the parts. If it gets resurrected, I'll post a follow up. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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