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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Quote Originally Posted by spree View Post
    Thank you for answers.
    Phil B.: The new drum life was in some cases only 20.000 pages? The new spare part - drum was faulty after 20.000 pages?
    No I did not clean whole insides.
    Davel: I clean laser shield glass, but clean developer roller was as new, when I looked at it.

    Do you think, when I buy new whole developing unit, replace developer, than buy new PCU unit: replace new drum it will be helpfull and it will keep fine 160.000 pages (as PM say)? Or there can be still the problem with drum, that some drums stand only 20.000 pages (shit product)?
    when you clean the drum ect... did you run any of the calibration/init procedures?

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Davel: I bought original parts Ricoh, not maintenance kit, but separatly each spare part:
    - OPC drum
    - OPC drum blade
    - pick-off pawls
    - transfer belt
    - transfer belt blade
    - charge roller apply
    - brush roller
    - developer (powder)
    - developing filters

    As I look at this SP 8200 maintenance kit 402960 it is whole PCU assembly and whole developing assembly. This could be a good solution for my problem. Is there developer (powder) inside this maintenance kit or I must it buy separately?



    Phil B.: I did not clean nothing - mistake? Drum was clean, cleaning roller clean...
    After replacing drum, blade, developer,.... I make exactly this:
    1.) Make developer initialization (ID sensor initial setting) SP3001-2,
    2.) Grayscale setting SP2810-1
    3.) After replacing the charge roller and cleaning roller, I checked the value of SP2001-001 and set SP2001-001 to "1500".
    4.) Set the developer lot number (from developer package) - SP2801
    5.) * see the mark


    *Probably I miss 2805-1 - could be this the problem???

    Or I missed something?
    Last edited by spree; 08-29-2018 at 11:10 PM.

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Yes it comes with developer. When you say set developer lot number did you actually execute SP2801 dev initialisation, if not you have missed the most crucial setting.

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Quote Originally Posted by davel View Post
    Yes it comes with developer. When you say set developer lot number did you actually execute SP2801 dev initialisation, if not you have missed the most crucial setting.
    I do not remember that.
    First set developer lot number and after that execute dev. initialization - in this order?

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Quote Originally Posted by spree View Post
    Davel: I bought original parts Ricoh, not maintenance kit, but separatly each spare part:
    - OPC drum
    - OPC drum blade
    - pick-off pawls
    - transfer belt
    - transfer belt blade
    - charge roller apply
    - brush roller
    - developer (powder)
    - developing filters

    As I look at this SP 8200 maintenance kit 402960 it is whole PCU assembly and whole developing assembly. This could be a good solution for my problem. Is there developer (powder) inside this maintenance kit or I must it buy separately?



    Phil B.: I did not clean nothing - mistake? Drum was clean, cleaning roller clean...
    After replacing drum, blade, developer,.... I make exactly this:
    1.) Make developer initialization (ID sensor initial setting) SP3001-2,
    2.) Grayscale setting SP2810-1
    3.) After replacing the charge roller and cleaning roller, I checked the value of SP2001-001 and set SP2001-001 to "1500".
    4.) Set the developer lot number (from developer package) - SP2801
    5.) * see the mark


    *Probably I miss 2805-1 - could be this the problem???

    Or I missed something?

    ALL ADJUSTMENTS MUST BE MADE...

    any TECH worth his SALT will CLEAN A MACHINE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Quote Originally Posted by spree View Post
    Davel: I bought original parts Ricoh, not maintenance kit, but separatly each spare part:
    - OPC drum
    - OPC drum blade
    - pick-off pawls
    - transfer belt
    - transfer belt blade
    - charge roller apply
    - brush roller
    - developer (powder)
    - developing filters

    As I look at this SP 8200 maintenance kit 402960 it is whole PCU assembly and whole developing assembly. This could be a good solution for my problem. Is there developer (powder) inside this maintenance kit or I must it buy separately?



    Phil B.: I did not clean nothing - mistake? Drum was clean, cleaning roller clean...
    After replacing drum, blade, developer,.... I make exactly this:
    1.) Make developer initialization (ID sensor initial setting) SP3001-2,
    2.) Grayscale setting SP2810-1
    3.) After replacing the charge roller and cleaning roller, I checked the value of SP2001-001 and set SP2001-001 to "1500".
    4.) Set the developer lot number (from developer package) - SP2801
    5.) * see the mark


    *Probably I miss 2805-1 - could be this the problem???

    Or I missed something?

    ALL ADJUSTMENTS MUST BE MADE... that's WHY they are in the SERVICE MANUAL

    any TECH worth his SALT will CLEAN A MACHINE BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE!

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    On most Ricoh machines, replace dev then you have to do SP2801 initialisation. Read your manual.

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    Re: MP4000 Gray Backgoround on Copies

    Quote Originally Posted by Vioksrall View Post
    It's already 10,000 copies after we replaced PM parts of this MP 4000. Now our customer observed that after copying 5 copies,gray background covering the whole sheet of the paper appears. I tried to clean the PCU and changed charge roller but still no to avail. Does anyone had experienced the same problem as this? Thanks.


    hi, if you allow me, in addition to everything that was rightly written I would also suggest to remove the small front cover of the pcdu upper, and with a finger pull out the spring with the agitator, with the vacuum cleaner, suck well the last part of the drain duct (see the picture), usually I always find it almost obstructed with lumps and lint (also customers hair?) from above you can not well ..

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    as someone has already suggested to you, if I were you, I would also clean well the internal laser unit and all its mirrors of the polygon and internal glass, this will solve some strange problems, even in the future
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