reset general counter Ricoh

**sandmanmac** · 09-09-2013

Originally Posted by Kidaver

Of course there are people out there that do that...they are called dishonest, unethical, cheating scumbags....I'm sure they sell this crap to their customers and then change their phone number and name to avoid them after a sale...and you are correct it isn't funny...it's down right immoral...

Agreed! And i also beg to differ with Tecnomarco that misrepresenting the usage of a machine is the same as cleaning up some discoloured panels. FALSE!

**tecnomarco** · 09-09-2013

I want to explain to me .. are not sold or rented as new but reconditioned, disassemble and clean in depth and also painted and sold at a price half that of again, and look like new, and I do not find anything wrong ...

**tecnomarco** · 09-09-2013

but what do you understand? the market for reconditioned exists here, and the customer knows, and knows that the car that I propose is reconditioned, of course, the selling price will not be that of the new but about half

**Tonerbomb** · 09-09-2013

What your doing may be fine in your country, but in the US it is considered FRAUD. And you can go to jail for it......................

**tecnomarco** · 09-09-2013

sell a reconditioned machine is considered fraud! in Europe is not so, there are a dozen wholesalers with 5000-10000 pieces

**Llama God** · 09-09-2013

Originally Posted by tecnomarco

sell a reconditioned machine is considered fraud! in Europe is not so, there are a dozen wholesalers with 5000-10000 pieces

Not with a zero reading though. It's simply unnecessary, unless you're attempting to mislead the buyer.

**tecnomarco** · 09-09-2013

personally never reset a counter .. also because it has a cost (NVRAM) .... I spoke about this topic of curiosity technique being a very competent forum, I did not think to disturb the conscience of someone!

**Llama God** · 09-09-2013

Originally Posted by tecnomarco

personally never reset a counter .. also because it has a cost (NVRAM) .... I spoke about this topic of curiosity technique being a very competent forum, I did not think to disturb the conscience of someone!

Someone? I think that you mean everyone!

**Eric1968** · 09-09-2013

Originally Posted by Tonerbomb

What your doing may be fine in your country, but in the US it is considered FRAUD. And you can go to jail for it......................

In my country (The Netherlands) it's illegal. Italy is part of the European Union, so it's most likely that it's also illegal in Italy.

I also wouldn't buy a 10 year old car with 000000 on the odometer...

**skynetto** · 09-09-2013

I'm from Italy too and we buy and sell used machines as well. I've never reset the counters even knowing some trick on Novita chips. Btw the sellers of used machines give us the records of Ricoh maintenance service of every machine we buy so we know even what was changed and when. If a machinedoesn't have the maintenance book we aint buying it.
My 0.02$