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  1. #21
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    Re: Manual desired......

    I've gotten free manuals before from manufacturers, parts distributors, and competitor authorized dealers in my area before. The argument usually goes like this...

    Me: Well sir/ma'am I'm looking to get about two thousand dollars or so in parts but I need the part numbers from the manual...that usually gets me the manual...and I usually end up buying parts from the person that gave them to me.

    I like the newer concept of having the service manual be on the machine...until the machine is so freakin dead that you can't access it.

    A searchable pdf file is a must for me...makes life sooo much easier.

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    Is Paul still doing that once a year free manual day thing?

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    Re: Manual desired......

    Ooo-errr, hope I haven't opened a can of worms!

    I certainly wasn't "bitchin" about anything.
    I was not in any desperate rush to get a service manual.
    It's human nature of course to try and get something cheaper (or for free) if possible.
    And as already stated, I have no objection to anyone selling service manuals, and have indeed purchased them in the past when needed.

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    Re: Manual desired......

    Unfortunately this topic is a can-o-worms, through no fault of yours.

    I personally consider manuals as tools required for the job, and in no way expect them to be given to me. Nor do I expect others to "borrow" my tools that I paid for.

    You just happened to step right into that one. =^..^=
    If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
    1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
    2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
    3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
    4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
    5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

    blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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    Re: Manual desired......

    Oops!

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    Re: Manual desired......

    There's also something to be said for providing manuals for free in retaliation to Paul's overzealous use of the negative rep power button.

    That's karma for you.

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    Re: Manual desired......

    Quote Originally Posted by blackcat4866 View Post
    Nor do I expect others to "borrow" my tools that I paid for.
    Sign in a Mechanic's shop:

    Some things we hold dear in life.
    The tools of our trade,
    and a wonderful wife.
    Please don't ask to borrow our tools,
    We won't ask to borrow your wife.

    Quote Originally Posted by pronicd View Post
    Ooo-errr, hope I haven't opened a can of worms!.
    Search the forum for any of the following keywords:
    Paul, illegal, copyright infringement, spam, reputation, manuals, free, or profanity in just about any language.

    You'll find this subject has been beaten to death, resurrected, and beaten some more. Also, "Beating a dead horse" is another phrase that has become fairly standard when it comes to Manuals4You.

    Bottom line - if you don't want to buy Paul's manuals, don't. If you do have a need to shell out your hard earned cash to him, do the rest of us a favor and at least give him a hard time about it =)
    73 DE W5SSJ

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    Re: Manual desired......

    You can borrow my wife any time, although you'll have to provide your own crane to lift the fat bitch off her arse.

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    Re: Manual desired......

    I'll give you manual no problem, just read my sig.
    Color is not 4 times harder... it's 65,000 times harder. They call it "TECH MODE" for a reason. I have manual's and firmware for ya, course... you are going to have to earn it.

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    Re: Manual desired......

    "Wanna earn $13 the hard way...?" Caddyshack has been on IFC all week.

    The automotive industry has software called ALLDATA. They offer repair/collision manual subscriptions for $175-$225 per month. Apply it to electronic repair manuals and you have a whole new business Paul.


    Failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

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    Re: Manual desired......

    Alldata licenses the info from its sources. Chilton and Haynes manuals are derived from an actual teardown of the vehicle in question.

    I suspect to do something similar in the copy world would meet with obstacles.
    73 DE W5SSJ

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