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  • Polarbear
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Feb 2012
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    MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

    Recently the above range has been plagued by sc670 out of no-where. On some it was caused by the
    IPU and on others by the Controller.

    Ricoh has now admitted that there are faulty chip on both the controller and the IPU that under certain conditions, cause the faults, and yes heat is a contributing factor.

    From what I understand there is a compensation plan being put in place.


    Have any of you experienced these problems? We have had at least 3 failures in the last month across the range.
    Press the GREEN button!!
  • thierry
    Technician
    • Apr 2012
    • 30

    #2
    Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

    I am very glad to hear this. Because the last discussion i had with Ricoh, they told me that there is no problem with these machines and they are trying to insinuate that it is only me with problems!

    Problems i have had are SC 819 , SC 672, SC 670 and the controller stalling. What i have managed to discover is that the options are trying to start up before the controller does and that causes problems.

    I see that you are from the Cape. Is it Ricoh SA that admits it or is it Ricoh Europe? Because that compensation program better come into play now!

    Thanks for the update!!

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    • jisa
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 7

      #3
      Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

      What we are experiencing in most of our MIF with this range is SC230 and eventually SC672 in which we ended up in replacing the IPU. We already informed Ricoh about the problem but we have not yet received any reply.

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      • Polarbear
        Service Manager

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        • Feb 2012
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        #4
        Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

        From my understanding this was communicated via Ricoh Europe. We are waiting to hear more
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        • Radman
          Technician
          • Aug 2008
          • 24

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          Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

          Originally posted by thierry
          I am very glad to hear this. Because the last discussion i had with Ricoh, they told me that there is no problem with these machines and they are trying to insinuate that it is only me with problems!

          Problems i have had are SC 819 , SC 672, SC 670 and the controller stalling. What i have managed to discover is that the options are trying to start up before the controller does and that causes problems.

          I see that you are from the Cape. Is it Ricoh SA that admits it or is it Ricoh Europe? Because that compensation program better come into play now!

          Thanks for the update!!
          If I may ask How did you guys resolve the problem? Did you have to replace any parts? Can any please share the RTB regarding the compensation.

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          • thierry
            Technician
            • Apr 2012
            • 30

            #6
            Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

            Originally posted by Radman
            If I may ask How did you guys resolve the problem? Did you have to replace any parts? Can any please share the RTB regarding the compensation.
            At the moment it is Ricoh Japan that will soon have a compensation program in place. They are in liase with Ricoh Europe at the moment.

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            • Radman
              Technician
              • Aug 2008
              • 24

              #7
              Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

              So did you have to replace any spares? Where can I find some documentation regarding the compensation plan. I would really like to use this to just keep some of my customers of my back . Thanks

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              • thierry
                Technician
                • Apr 2012
                • 30

                #8
                Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                Originally posted by Radman
                So did you have to replace any spares? Where can I find some documentation regarding the compensation plan. I would really like to use this to just keep some of my customers of my back . Thanks
                Yes i had to replace controllers. As soon as i have more info regarding compensation program i will keep you posted. Watch this space!

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                • thierry
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 30

                  #9
                  Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                  Originally posted by thierry
                  At the moment it is Ricoh Japan that will soon have a compensation program in place. They are in liase with Ricoh Europe at the moment.

                  Hi All,

                  Please see the reply from Ricoh Japan regarding thefailures on this range, as well the attachment, as soon as I have more info foryou, I will let you know,

                  ************************************************** ************************************************** **************************************************
                  Wehave been informed by Japan that they have found the cause of the SC670 (IPUand Controller Board) failure after intense investigation.

                  <Details of the issue>
                  Symptom:
                  -The operation panel screen suddenly shuts off (no display).
                  -SC672 or 'Please wait.' is displayed

                  <Cause>
                  -Defective ICs were used on controller boards and IPU boards. The problem isaffected by the machine environment (temperature and humidity)



                  Because of this, Japan will start a compensation program which will beannounced soon.


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                  • Polarbear
                    Service Manager

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                    • Feb 2012
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                    #10
                    Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                    Originally posted by jisa
                    What we are experiencing in most of our MIF with this range is SC230 and eventually SC672 in which we ended up in replacing the IPU. We already informed Ricoh about the problem but we have not yet received any reply.
                    AFAIK there is a test firmware for the SC230 that Ricoh released recently. We were told to keep records of the machines these patches were applied to for R&D purposes.

                    I don't think that you need to replace IPU or controller for this just yet, and if you do, the proposed compensation plan is not going to help you.
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                    • The Good Old Days
                      Junior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 6

                      #11
                      Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                      Polarbear, Where can I get the firmware for the 230 codes It is not posted on the TSRC website

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                      • Codex
                        Senior Tech

                        500+ Posts
                        • May 2008
                        • 704

                        #12
                        Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                        Hello


                        We have the same problem with an Aficio 3352, we had to replace the board.......and pay for it!, no information from Ricoh Europe about the "well known " problem!
                        Memento Audere Semper

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                        • Gift
                          Service Manager

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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2459

                          #13
                          Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                          Same here - no official intel about this. Would be nice to get in touch with the original bulletin/announcement just in case.

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                          • The Good Old Days
                            Junior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 6

                            #14
                            Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                            Just an update Replaced the IPU BCU and registration sensor. Clipped wire ties from reg sensor to BCU. 400 copies later 230 is back. Called Ricoh again they are out of ideas short of total memory clear. Seam's I am the only one having this problem according to them

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                            • nstiller

                              #15
                              Re: MP 2352/2852/3352 - Ricoh admits faulty chips on controller and IPU

                              I have two MP 3352's with SC672 that have been sitting for a month. I will be working on them and will follow up if I find resolution.

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